Time on House removal/reclaming is way to short! (private houseing)

[EthanParcival]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree, I say its a fine compromise, 45 days is more than enough time.

Buying a house in game with gil is like paying a downpayment on a Real Life house, you still gotta pay your monthly mortage for it.
In the game you just have to log in once every 45 days, which of course means you gotta pay your $15 dlls subscription.

And just like in real life if you miss enough payments in a mortage and you get your house foreclosed, same in the game, miss on your subscription and you lose the commodity.

However in real life you get 0% of your investment back after a foreclosure, so at least in game you get 80% of your investment back!

To me thats not shady, thats how the world works.

[Shirobi]

45 days is wayyyy to short. That basically means I have to play FFXIV or else now. If cant take any time off without losing my home!

That's horrible SE!

This needs to be like 6 months, or 3 months at the shortest!

This feels like black mail since anyone might have to stop playing for a few months and you arent even giving them two full pay periods to take a break in!

Is this how you plan on keeping your customers long term? Blackmail?

This is pathetic.

[Rufalus]

I don't mind if they increase the timer later on to more than 45 days, but that first wave of booting can't come soon enough lol. Lots of home owners quit the game up to 2 years ago and we've been eyeing those abandoned plots ever since.

basically means I have to play FFXIV or else now. If cant take any time off without losing my home!

I feel it's fair for homes go to players of the game, not people who dabble on occasion. If your investment in the game is so little that you have periods where you will voluntarily unsubscribe and not log in for over a month, then the home can be taken by a more dedicated player who supports the game.

Personally I play every day and will keep doing so unless something interferes such as computer failure, lack of money or unforeseen commitments arising, and if those things happen I would just have to accept my 80% return on investment and an active player taking my plot.

[Shirobi]

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Too bad. You should have been an early supporter and had the money ready to go when the housing was originally available.

This is screwing over dedicated, long term players for newbies.

[Skybourne]

Too bad. You should have been an early supporter and had the money ready to go when the housing was originally available.

This is screwing over dedicated, long term players for newbies.

Just because people like you have been a subscriber since the beginning doesn't automatically give you more of a right to home ownership, if you can't stay active then too bad, and don't even try preaching work or financial issues, if you were really worried about it I'm sure you could find someone close to purchase the lot from you and while there are items that couldn't be replaced easily that is a small price to pay, though I would sort of think so long as an account is active then there shouldn't be a timer so I will give support for that part. Though a real solutuon would be limiting one house per account for starters, just because anyone would want to take a break from the game shouldn't excuse you from holding a limited resource indefinitely.

[Kinseykinz]

Too bad. You should have been an early supporter and had the money ready to go when the housing was originally available.

This is screwing over dedicated, long term players for newbies.

No it's not. If you ARE such a player, then you have an active account dedicated=you pay your sub. And if you play and pay, then you won't lose your house. It's for exactly what the person you quoted said. To allow newer folk (and even, get this old, dedicated players) who'd like homes, a chance to get one, by removing them from people who no longer play/pay to play. Also, it will make it easier for SE to judge the actual player need for housing on each server to better provide additional housing/wards etc.

People really need to start looking forward. This game, if FFXI is any indicator, could have a decade+ lifespan. Over that time, you really don't think a fair amount of people living in the current wards won't move on/play something else etc. Those wards, if nothing is done, will become ghost towns, wasted server space, and just add to game bloat. This new system will make it so even 10 years from now, ward 1 on any server/any plot has a human actively playing the game behind it. And therefore, as in real life, keeps the value/desire of the entire ward up. But it also will mean that we won't need to add extra space every couple months simply because all houses are full. The space will be added when 1. All spaces are full and 2. Not enough spaces are going vacant in a reasonable timeframe. I don't want to go though a 40+ ward list to find a friends house...I'm sure you don't either. This system helps fix it.

[Liavain_Axon]

45 days is wayyyy to short. That basically means I have to play FFXIV or else now. If cant take any time off without losing my home!

That's horrible SE!

This needs to be like 6 months, or 3 months at the shortest!

This feels like black mail since anyone might have to stop playing for a few months and you arent even giving them two full pay periods to take a break in!

Is this how you plan on keeping your customers long term? Blackmail?

This is pathetic.

No offense, but we have limited plots of housing and adding more requires more fiddling with server hardware. Having a house in FFXIV is a privilege only few can have. Adding the requirement of logging in once a month to keep a house is reasonable.

Private houses serve only few actual purposes. Having an inactive home is selfish. If you can't be bothered to log in once a month, then maybe having a house isn't for you.

First off sharing a house does squat since they made it strictly up to the owner to stop it from being demolished. Secondly, and this is the big kicker that is pissing most people off, just paying the sub won't stop demolition. When I was deployed on a ship I couldn't exactly bring my gaming desktop with me for 6 months and I was single so I didn't have anyone to pop in and log in for me, not to mention the fact I have an authenticator so that wouldn't be an option anyways. Remember SE doesn't sell physical authenticators and I'm not leaving my phone in an empty apartment for 6+ months. If we could just pay our subs and not have to worry about a time limit that wouldn't be as bad, still a money grab from hell that no other MMO has ever done to their player base, but would still be manageable. The first houses will be freeing up around christmas and guess what there will still be a vast housing shortage across all servers because they only made enough houses for about 1-2% of the player population. A little over 1k houses per server is like putting a drop in an empty pond and expecting it be full. This is a quick grab at money and placating to everyone screaming. Its not going to fix the problem at all but everyone who called for this is so proud of themselves and think they did so well until this goes sideways and people start getting screwed. For a game that advertises housing for its players not only have they failed miserably at delivering but now they're taking houses away unless you pay them and have time to get on. Imagine if this wasn't housing. Imagine if instead it was gear or levels. You'd be pretty pissed if you weren't able to log in and after 45days you started loosing hard earned levels or gear. Well housing is pretty dang hardwork to save up for and maintain. I spend time crafting and gardening just so that I can have my own little spot. If I can't make it to my computer after just a month and half and I lose all my hardwork because of something purely out of my control then I'm not going to pay for a sub to a game that screwed me and I'm gonna warn everyone else I know who plays. Honestly you'd be shocked how many service member play MMOs. There's a lot of us and none are going to put up with getting screwed over for doing their job.

Simple solution- Remove the Authenticator to let someone you authorize to log in and put it back on afterwards. You can do this via any web browser or even your phone.

Ultima Online required you to log into your home once a week to keep it "refreshed". (They did change that eventually for people who only had one home)
Archage requires you to pay "taxes" on your home every week to keep it or it gets demolished. (Only subscribers can pay taxes)

The current housing system does need a rework. Everyone should have the capability to have a home.

[Rina_Leonhart]

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This is not Ultima Online or Archage. They had the expectation of not having this issue when they bought their house, but either way a timer in the long run was needed because they couldn't just find all the true inactives any other way. Not liking how short it is tbh, but better then what they had originally planned out (though not by much). By paying a sub, you are a paying customer even if you don't use the plot. Maybe your friends will still use the garden while the owner is away. It isn't like the plot may never have a use by the inactive, yet paying player. I also think they should not make you have to enter the house to reset the timer. A subscription should be good enough. That or make it so tenants have the ability to reactivate it for private homes.

[Nymeria2x]

Simple solution- Remove the Authenticator to let someone you authorize to log in and put it back on afterwards. You can do this via any web browser or even your phone.

Just LOL why in the hell would any sane person take their authenticator off unless they were moving it to a new device? I started playing WOW way back before authenticators were a thing. My account was stolen 3 times. Twice by keyloggers trolling gaming forums and once by an ex roommate who sold the account and my computer. There is no way I will ever play another MMO without an authenticator. As to your point over Ultima and Archage. FFXIV is a different game and the fact that YoshieP specifically promised never to implement a system like those games and turned right around and did it because they screwed the pooch on the housing system from the beginning should be enough to have all the players up in arms.