Time on House removal/reclaming is way to short! (private houseing)

[Sicno]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree, I say its a fine compromise, 45 days is more than enough time.

Buying a house in game with gil is like paying a downpayment on a Real Life house, you still gotta pay your monthly mortage for it.
In the game you just have to log in once every 45 days, which of course means you gotta pay your $15 dlls subscription.

And just like in real life if you miss enough payments in a mortage and you get your house foreclosed, same in the game, miss on your subscription and you lose the commodity.

However in real life you get 0% of your investment back after a foreclosure, so at least in game you get 80% of your investment back!

To me thats not shady, thats how the world works.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3380792

[Geologo]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree, I say its a fine compromise, 45 days is more than enough time.

Buying a house in game with gil is like paying a downpayment on a Real Life house, you still gotta pay your monthly mortage for it.
In the game you just have to log in once every 45 days, which of course means you gotta pay your $15 dlls subscription.

And just like in real life if you miss enough payments in a mortage and you get your house foreclosed, same in the game, miss on your subscription and you lose the commodity.

However in real life you get 0% of your investment back after a foreclosure, so at least in game you get 80% of your investment back!

To me thats not shady, thats how the world works.

I think you are missing that real life and a game are different things,
"Pay money to mantain your status" is something that make me mad,
they said that you can enlist few members for act like the owner(put and move forniture etc...)

If atleast their visit would act like your visit I'll be ok with it, but this way will just force to renew forcefully your subcription to mantain something that is just not an item.

[Maddonious]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree, I say its a fine compromise, 45 days is more than enough time.

Buying a house in game with gil is like paying a downpayment on a Real Life house, you still gotta pay your monthly mortage for it.
In the game you just have to log in once every 45 days, which of course means you gotta pay your $15 dlls subscription.

And just like in real life if you miss enough payments in a mortage and you get your house foreclosed, same in the game, miss on your subscription and you lose the commodity.

However in real life you get 0% of your investment back after a foreclosure, so at least in game you get 80% of your investment back!

To me thats not shady, thats how the world works.

I can't tell if serious, delusional, or a troll.....

If I had to pay my *ahem* mortgage I would be fine with that if it was only with in game gil, lotro does this (but without destroying the house, just locking it). However the issue is you always have to keep a permanent sub, no decent breaks in between, which is what I have a problem with. All that time planning the layout, buying rare furniture to put up (that can't be moved again or its destroyed), getting the perfect house for the best scenery. Its just absurd.

Also this is a game, not real life. No other MMO does this with housing so it is obviously shady as hell with how they want to handle it.

[Twinbros]

Actually, its far too long, 45 days is stupid long. 21 days would be far more reasonable

[FoxyAreku]

As a personal house owner, I think the time should be lower tbh.

If you don't play for a whopping 45 days then you don't deserve your rented corner of the server, simple as that. You can take your gil and buy a new house when you come back.

[Solarra]

If you don't play for a whopping 45 days then you don't deserve your rented corner of the server, simple as that. You can take your gil and buy a new house when you come back.

I'd agree with you if all items of furniture were able to be reclaimed and if those items were stored for longer than a month. Your characters are stored indefinitely, why not your house contents?

I don't have a house and I'd stand to benefit from your proposal but I don't think it would be fair.
Remember, Square told people explicitly that property would not degrade. I understand why they have gone back on that and I'm hoping to get our FC a house from the reclamation, but they still need to take into consideration those people who took them at their word.

[FoxyAreku]

I'd agree with you if all items of furniture were able to be reclaimed and if those items were stored for longer than a month. Your characters are stored indefinitely, why not your house contents?

I don't have a house and I'd stand to benefit from your proposal but I don't think it would be fair.
Remember, Square told people explicitly that property would not degrade. I understand why they have gone back on that and I'm hoping to get our FC a house from the reclamation, but they still need to take into consideration those people who took them at their word.

If you care about your primal and other irremovable housing items then you shouldn't unsub for 45 days.
IDK, maybe I'm weird, but none of those items are incredibly hard to get a second time, nor are they fancy enough to throw a fit over losing. My two cents, anyway.

[Zorlinta]

If you care about your primal and other irremovable housing items then you shouldn't unsub for 45 days.
IDK, maybe I'm weird, but none of those items are incredibly hard to get a second time, nor are they fancy enough to throw a fit over losing. My two cents, anyway.

Just the trouble is not that suscription be active, is that you must log in and get inside of your house. So if you keep suscribe for 90 days cycle, and you are not able to log in by 45 days within those 90 days you already pay, say bye bye to your house.

[Niwashi]

If you care about your primal and other irremovable housing items then you shouldn't unsub for 45 days.
IDK, maybe I'm weird, but none of those items are incredibly hard to get a second time, nor are they fancy enough to throw a fit over losing. My two cents, anyway.

But it's not just those items. It's also the fact that you only have one month in which to get back anything at all.

It's commonplace for players to leave a game for several months, even a few years, and then come back again. Nobody would expect to still have a housing plot in a limited-plot system like this, but there IS generally an expectation that you can pick up where you left off and still have all your stuff. That's why characters, along with their inventory and retainer inventory, are kept permanently.

But now housing items are NOT. After a month, you get nothing at all to show for your biggest investment of the entire game. All your gil is gone and all your items are gone. There are a few of the rare ones for which you don't even get that month, so it's a slightly bigger issue for those pieces. But the fact that beyond the one month window you get nothing is the main problem.

[Anova]

Technically, players have paid for the house and the land in full. Owners before never had to pay this extra money to maintain the houses, and banks cannot suddenly start charging you a monthly fee after the contract's been signed and the money paid.

What this is, is a government taxation law coupled with eminent domain. I know it's a technicality, but essentially it's a change in government law that is increasing taxes on the land owners. The government then pays the owner fair market value for the house (usually much lower than what you expected, what a surprise), and then takes the land from you to do with it whatever it wants (because the land you live on and paid for is still technically your government's).

Also, I don't see understand this myth about multi-home owners being cheaters. They got around the system early on it's true, and it is a little unfair for them to own two houses when so many people are without, but I wouldn't call anything they did as a cheat (unless they actually bought gil or RMT'd).