Time on House removal/reclaming is way to short! (private houseing)

[Vidu]

Technically, players have paid for the house and the land in full.

Oh really? They've paid in gil, our in-game currency. So if SE would start charging us more gil that statment would make more sense. I'm looking at this way: While I earned the right to have a house (or earned enough gil... however you want to express that) all the data is still stored at the servers of SE - and those arent running for free. I'm paying real money for my sub and for that service - that not only include the housing but a lot of other stuff... but with SE always saying "we cant add more storage because servers cant handle it" I feel a bit... bitter about people saying "hey, I wont pay for your service - so please store all my data for free until I come back!". I'm not an expert on programming but I would suppose that its a lot more stress on the server to store a house (with furniture) than you retainers/personal inventory. But with housing being such a limited thing... npt paying for the service? Let someone have it who is paying for it then!

It might would be some sort of a compromiss for personal homes to give the "power" of resetting the timer to everyone you've marked as a "friend of the house" (sorry, no better way to put it right now - what I'm meaning by that: The system they wanted to add to share the house with a few people that you would have to pick first - therefor it would be like a small FC)

[Anova]

SE can charge you blah blah blah

I'm not really arguing that SE is incorrect here or that they shouldn't charge players for the extra memory. I'm just saying the analogy to mortgage and foreclosure is incorrect and that a more appropriate analogy is property tax and eminent domain.

[Zorlinta]

45 days is fine only if your suscription is paid each month, but is not fair for we that suscribed and pay each 90days. Fix it to 90+ days.

And certainly the land price is very cheap in relation to all items non-refundables that are placed in. Its not fair that..

[Kyri]

My biggest concern with this is that 1.5 months isn't much time for someone with a personal to replace a PC/Ps3/4 who doesn't make a lot or has a family if it was to break down. Originally when they thought about this idea way back when they were thinking around 3 months to loose a land. 3 months is a much more reasonable period of time for someone to replace a console/PC and not have to refer to trying to trust a friend with account information(which is against Tos) until they can confirm that the people you "add" as "Co-owners" to your personal can also save your house. At the moment the notice states "Only the owner". So until that's changed to say owner or those they add as co-owners to the home, or closer to 3 months inactivity I would be very concerned if my PC was to break down, because I for one can not afford to loose $500-$1000 for a new one within a period of 45 days. Im aware that even with 60-90 days some would still complain but people will always complain. Im concerned with the fact these consoles and computers -do- break down and cost a lot of money.

[Shirobi]

My biggest concern with this is that 1.5 months isn't much time for someone with a personal to replace a PC/Ps3/4 who doesn't make a lot or has a family if it was to break down. Originally when they thought about this idea way back when they were thinking around 3 months to loose a land. 3 months is a much more reasonable period of time

Exactly. That this is happening at all is absurd, but 45 days? Less than 2 payment periods? That's insane. Basically if you have a hardware problem, well, bye bye house unless you can immediately get it fixed.

[Frost_Trunks]

However I for one am not happy with the current time limit set up in the preview of the system. For all houses, be it FC or Private, you have 45 days to get a member(fc) or the owner (private) to set foot inside the house to reset the timer.

I am sure somebody said something, but I'm not going to waste my time reading through 3-4 pages of replies.

45 day is plenty of time. Suck it up and log in. Log your character out in the house. It will take you less than 5 minutes to log in and gtfo. I find it hard to believe that you can't find time to log in for 5 minutes once every 45 days. smh

[Shirobi]

I am sure somebody said something, but I'm not going to waste my time reading through 3-4 pages of replies.

45 day is plenty of time. Suck it up and log in. Log your character out in the house. It will take you less than 5 minutes to log in and gtfo. I find it hard to believe that you can't find time to log in for 5 minutes once every 45 days. smh

Its not that people think logging in every 45 days is hard, its that too many irl issues can come up that can cause you to miss a month or two and then BAM you've lost everything, and now you have less incentive to even bother coming back.

For people who pay bills or cant afford to instantly buy a new PC or console when an old one breaks down, it pretty much kills the game because who is gonna want to come back after they lose something like that?

[dspguy]

45 days is a fine amount of time.

In my opinion, housing should be used by active players. You aren't active if you aren't playing. And you get back 80% of the purchase price if it is abandoned. And if you don't log on in time to get that, why are you complaining about the loss of virtual real estate in a game you aren't even playing?

[Shirobi]

45 days is a fine amount of time.

In my opinion, housing should be used by active players. You aren't active if you aren't playing. And you get back 80% of the purchase price if it is abandoned. And if you don't log on in time to get that, why are you complaining about the loss of virtual real estate in a game you aren't even playing?

So you'd be fine then if they.. say... deleted all items and gil off characters who arent logged in in 45 days? Or maybe the characters themselves as well.

I mean, afterall those are taking up "server resources" as well. And who cares about the loss of virtual items in a game you aren't even playing...

[Nymeria2x]

45 days is a fine amount of time.

In my opinion, housing should be used by active players. You aren't active if you aren't playing. And you get back 80% of the purchase price if it is abandoned. And if you don't log on in time to get that, why are you complaining about the loss of virtual real estate in a game you aren't even playing?

Are you serious? I'm guessing you've never been deployed or had financial issues or been severely sick or injured? For the people who have its a real kick in the gut to come back to the game you love and discover your stuff is gone. Especially since the time limit for demolition and retrieving your items is so short. 45 day before demolition, 35 days before your stuff disappears. Sounds like crap considering the average deployment is at least 3-6months and is usually far longer. No telling how long someone will be in the hospital after a serious illness or a bad accident. What about when someone's computer breaks down and they need to save up for the sudden expense. There's the dedicated college kids/adults how play during the summer and on holidays while they focus the rest of the time on their work. There are literally hundreds of different reasons life could force you away form the game for an extended period so why should players be punished for dealing with real life? I certainly wouldn't want to continue playing a game if I came back and all the stuff I'd worked so hard for was gone.