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    Player kamikrazy's Avatar
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    Jetei Avagnar
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    Marauder Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by Sho86 View Post
    Semantics? The current system was not the originally intended system for personal housing, we all know this, and is currently very flawed. The players did not do this. By your analogy/example/etc, our gear, or mounts, hell even characters should be deleted within 45 days because we're not paying a dime to keep those active when we take a break or quit.
    I agree with this response. And would like to add to it:

    Remember that all that is necessary for a ward is a set of item names and locations. The amount of data required to host that is incredibly small, likely smaller than the size of a single character's information. If SE's system is so inefficient as to store sets of that data, then they need to improve that system. Its just data storage and nothing more. The only reality is that it is very limited because SE has chosen to make it so because they have chosen that it is not important and not worth more server space, yet they are totally okay with using that same storage space on everything else and never deleting it.

    By following this logic, players characters should be deleted after 45 days, and it would be no different on SE's end, and you could still argue the same argument that they "were taking up space that someone else could use." The argument is ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    I suggest cooling down. You read my post as snide because you seem to be very emotional over the subject. Remember this conversation is about a fake house in a video game.
    Don't try to paint me as the emotion one when I'm the one who logically retorted your obviously passive aggressive response. You are the one who stepped out-of-line with your "go play sims, this game isn't for you" line. And your argument of, "don't care, it's just a video game!" is also as tired and old as video games itself. The work you did towards the game is real, even if the game isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    1) The housing thing is about allowing people who actually do play to use the housing features of the game. Just because you've been an avid subscriber for however long, it doesn't make you worth more than anyone else to SE if you suddenly quit. Therefore they have to give the incentives to someone who's still there.

    2) I don't have a house yet, but I will be getting one whenever the Ishgard wards open up (as I'm assuming they will) and if I stop playing for a few months and lose it, so be it. I get 80% of the purchase gil and most of my furniture back, losing the rest of the stuff is a fair trade for not being a slave to a game that, at the time, I didn't want to play anymore.

    3) Committing yourself to an MMO in a way that makes you feel bad when you're not playing is not healthy, and SE's new housing rules has nothing at all to do with that.
    1) I've countered this in the very first paragraph of this very post.

    2) That's fine for you, but this topic was created as a way to illustrate the logic that an entire demographic of people are going to have. And the majority of people are going to be devastated at the loss of such a difficult to obtain reward, especially when there's basically 0% chance they will ever be able to attain it again. This fear of loss and the pressure to commit to the game forever is what causes 3). It doesn't matter what the object is in life, if you worked hard for it, you don't want to lose it. And knowing that you could lose something you worked hard for will cause many people to just not work towards it at all. In this case, many people will see everything they do in the game as working towards owning a house, and thus will see everything you do in the game pointless because they can never really own the house. They will see it as merely renting it.

    And there's a great deal of people in the real world who refuse to rent houses, and see it as a waste of time and money that they could spend towards owning one.
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    Last edited by kamikrazy; 10-22-2015 at 03:45 PM.