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  1. #121
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    OP, you get in-game mail stating your inactivity, you get TWO e-mails to your personal e-mail account about your inactivity. If you cannot visit your house in that time with that much notice, do you really need a house?
    Have you ever served in the military?
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  2. #122
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    Fohl Hakuko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    Oh so you can't be friendly to people you don't see all the time or who has been away for some time? Good thing I'm not one of your distant relatives.
    Not saying I can't be friendly. Saying it's hard to be "friendly" to someone who isn't online. The 45 day time frame was a bit confusing :P I'm just poking fun *poke poke*
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  3. #123
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    You know that you can have a personal room in your FC mansion, right?
    Yup. And you know you can lose it when the leader goes on a power trip and kicks you, right?
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  4. #124
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    Kyett Corbeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Yup. And you know you can lose it when the leader goes on a power trip and kicks you, right?
    Sounds more like a problem with finding a good FC than with the housing system, but hey. ;P

    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Have you ever served in the military?
    This is admittedly an issue for people with housing for themselves. Maybe people registered to your home with the new permission sharing system can also keep the timer refreshed?
    If not, well - Yoshi promised available and affordable personal housing for everyone, so it's not the first time he was wrong about the housing system, eh?
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  5. #125
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    Sandra Dalvia
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Could say the same about the people who actually own the homes and camped for it on time of release, especially when new wards were added.
    How can that be the same? Nobody was owning those plots, they were completely new, I wasn't stripping anyone from the houses they already owned for a long time. Being first to take is not the same as getting late and still wanting to take away from the first person. Also, why is "camping" regarded as a bad thing? Why is being there waiting for new plots to open regarded as a bad thing? I'm not sure if you understand the words you're using. Besides, plots weren't all taken immediatly when subdivisions opened, it may have been a few weeks before they were taken. I remember taking my time deciding on whether I wanted to make my home at Mist or Lavender Beds.
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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

  6. #126
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    Kyros's Avatar
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    Odiron Dulmare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Really? 3 months is way to long to have an inactive house just cause you didn't want to log on, that's 1/4 of a year. 45 makes more sense, a player who wants to play will be logged at least 9-10 months of the year so if they don't play a month, they have 15 days to go before they lose house.
    Proof again that you have no house and know not what you speak of. Again, it may be an extra month and a half of waiting if I take a break, but it's still an over 2 year investment on my part. Just because I suddenly take a 3 month break doesn't magically invalidate 2 years worth of work, nor it means that I don't care about it.

    You people keep thinking that just because "We want an extra month" or so means we don't care about the house really shows just how little you know of the situation or how eager you are to tear someones house for no reason (And no, chances are you are not getting a house with this system either).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kietsu View Post
    No, the bottom line is that there is no space left and people want to own housing. It's a bit hard to care about the property of somebody who doesn't care about the property.
    And your biggest mistake is thinking you that taking a break means you don't care about it. That is the whole crux of the issue. We CARE about our house, and now we are permanently tied to it. Again, basically it means house owners, unlike everyone else in the game, no longer have the luxury of ever taking a break.

    No one else but house owners have this pressure. Players on Balmung won't suddenly find their characters deleted because "They needed server space". Your retainer won't disappear if you didn't access it for a random amount of time. Your gil won't suddenly be redistributed to help the economy. Nothing of this happens, except for house owners. This is what's wrong.
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  7. #127
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    That would be because none of the things you listed are limited in #. Now, I will say, it would be nice if you could go on a "vacation mode" or something that essentially states that you will be gone for an extended period of time, but will definitely be back (so don't touch my stuff please). I'm fine with that honestly. But I don't think 45 days is unreasonable either. The bigger issue is that there are thousands of lots unavailable because no one has visited them in months or a year. These are what we are looking forward to honestly. I could care less about taking a house from someone who's been here for 2 years. I just don't like that there were houses sitting that NO ONE was using anymore and with no intent of it being used again.

    And honestly, part of the reason they made the time limit what it was may have been incentive to continue paying sub. They are a business you know, not a charity. Some may quit because they deem this "unfair", but many will simply say "oh, guess I need to keep my sub going" and they'll simply do it. Not to say this is right or wrong, but it is what it is.
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  8. #128
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    And your biggest mistake is thinking you that taking a break means you don't care about it. That is the whole crux of the issue. We CARE about our house, and now we are permanently tied to it. Again, basically it means house owners, unlike everyone else in the game, no longer have the luxury of ever taking a break.
    If you mean you can't take a break from paying the sub then yes, other if you just taking a break while keeping your sub up all you have to do it log in enter your house log back off and continue your beak.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    We CARE about our house.
    And plenty of people - entire free companies, even - care about the fact that housing is literally impossible for them to have. Neither side is wrong, frankly.
    Should unused housing be freed up after going unused for too long? Yes, it should. Is 45 days too short? Yes, it is.
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    ....
    Because it's comparable to denying you of a housing (that I took it first) just as much as me holding onto it and deny you of said housing. Different circumstances, same effect. I wanted my house at any cost, so I camped it and took it for myself ,knowing very well that the other person won't be able to purchase it after I have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    ...You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
    There's literally nothing else to discuss if you legitimately spent an entire post just to berate the other side as your rebuttal.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 10-22-2015 at 04:45 AM.
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