Not saying I can't be friendly. Saying it's hard to be "friendly" to someone who isn't online. The 45 day time frame was a bit confusing :P I'm just poking fun *poke poke*
Sounds more like a problem with finding a good FC than with the housing system, but hey. ;P
This is admittedly an issue for people with housing for themselves. Maybe people registered to your home with the new permission sharing system can also keep the timer refreshed?
If not, well - Yoshi promised available and affordable personal housing for everyone, so it's not the first time he was wrong about the housing system, eh?
How can that be the same? Nobody was owning those plots, they were completely new, I wasn't stripping anyone from the houses they already owned for a long time. Being first to take is not the same as getting late and still wanting to take away from the first person. Also, why is "camping" regarded as a bad thing? Why is being there waiting for new plots to open regarded as a bad thing? I'm not sure if you understand the words you're using. Besides, plots weren't all taken immediatly when subdivisions opened, it may have been a few weeks before they were taken. I remember taking my time deciding on whether I wanted to make my home at Mist or Lavender Beds.
Naoki Yoshida:
Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
Proof again that you have no house and know not what you speak of. Again, it may be an extra month and a half of waiting if I take a break, but it's still an over 2 year investment on my part. Just because I suddenly take a 3 month break doesn't magically invalidate 2 years worth of work, nor it means that I don't care about it.Really? 3 months is way to long to have an inactive house just cause you didn't want to log on, that's 1/4 of a year. 45 makes more sense, a player who wants to play will be logged at least 9-10 months of the year so if they don't play a month, they have 15 days to go before they lose house.
You people keep thinking that just because "We want an extra month" or so means we don't care about the house really shows just how little you know of the situation or how eager you are to tear someones house for no reason (And no, chances are you are not getting a house with this system either).
And your biggest mistake is thinking you that taking a break means you don't care about it. That is the whole crux of the issue. We CARE about our house, and now we are permanently tied to it. Again, basically it means house owners, unlike everyone else in the game, no longer have the luxury of ever taking a break.
No one else but house owners have this pressure. Players on Balmung won't suddenly find their characters deleted because "They needed server space". Your retainer won't disappear if you didn't access it for a random amount of time. Your gil won't suddenly be redistributed to help the economy. Nothing of this happens, except for house owners. This is what's wrong.
That would be because none of the things you listed are limited in #. Now, I will say, it would be nice if you could go on a "vacation mode" or something that essentially states that you will be gone for an extended period of time, but will definitely be back (so don't touch my stuff please). I'm fine with that honestly. But I don't think 45 days is unreasonable either. The bigger issue is that there are thousands of lots unavailable because no one has visited them in months or a year. These are what we are looking forward to honestly. I could care less about taking a house from someone who's been here for 2 years. I just don't like that there were houses sitting that NO ONE was using anymore and with no intent of it being used again.
And honestly, part of the reason they made the time limit what it was may have been incentive to continue paying sub. They are a business you know, not a charity. Some may quit because they deem this "unfair", but many will simply say "oh, guess I need to keep my sub going" and they'll simply do it. Not to say this is right or wrong, but it is what it is.
If you mean you can't take a break from paying the sub then yes, other if you just taking a break while keeping your sub up all you have to do it log in enter your house log back off and continue your beak.And your biggest mistake is thinking you that taking a break means you don't care about it. That is the whole crux of the issue. We CARE about our house, and now we are permanently tied to it. Again, basically it means house owners, unlike everyone else in the game, no longer have the luxury of ever taking a break.
And plenty of people - entire free companies, even - care about the fact that housing is literally impossible for them to have. Neither side is wrong, frankly.
Should unused housing be freed up after going unused for too long? Yes, it should. Is 45 days too short? Yes, it is.
Because it's comparable to denying you of a housing (that I took it first) just as much as me holding onto it and deny you of said housing. Different circumstances, same effect. I wanted my house at any cost, so I camped it and took it for myself ,knowing very well that the other person won't be able to purchase it after I have.
There's literally nothing else to discuss if you legitimately spent an entire post just to berate the other side as your rebuttal.
Last edited by RiceisNice; 10-22-2015 at 04:45 AM.
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