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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    If you're no longer paying and playing to access your house, how do you feel an attachment to it? It would be like owning a dog and after a few years never looking at it, while still claiming that you're "attached" to it.
    I can't have a vacation?
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  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    There is a difference between having to leave your dog behind for sometime due to being deployed and outright ignoring them because you're bored of them though, the latter being the case for the majority of players. Don't get me wrong, I know there's going to be cases where players can't player no matter how much they might want to due to real life circumstances, but realistically speaking it's just that most people are going to leave the game and think "Maybe I'll come back". 2 months is plenty for a temporary break.
    I don't think that it's your place to decide what "the majority" of players intend to do when they take a break from the game, nor is it your place to decide how much time is "plenty" for a break when there are many lines of work that require people to be completely apart from the Internet for 2-3 months of the year, even if they spend every day of the remaining 9-10 months playing the game.

    Auto-demolition is fine. 45 days is not. If it were 45 days after your subscription lapsed, this would be a different conversation, but if you remain an active subscriber, nobody should be deciding how you're "supposed" to use that subscription to be able to keep your things. I don't imagine that people would be okay with it if they were updating the housing system so that people who had cleared more floors of Savage could buy plots of land that were currently occupied by people who had cleared fewer floors of Savage.
    And yet that sort of "Well these players deserve it more because the way they play the game meets our arbitrary standards of player worthiness" attitude is entrenched in the very core of every single argument in favor of taking houses away from active subscribers who log out for more than x days in a row.
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I can't have a vacation?
    Where do you work where you're able to take a 90 day vacation... or even a 45 day one? And in the case that you're self employed, are you unable to login just once and pop into your house quickly while on vacation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crater View Post
    I don't think that it's your place to decide what "the majority" of players intend to do when they take a break from the game, nor is it your place to decide how much time is "plenty" for a break when there are many lines of work that require people to be completely apart from the Internet for 2-3 months of the year, even if they spend every day of the remaining 9-10 months playing the game.
    You're right, it isn't my place, nor it is yours. It's SE's choices and they've decided on 45 days.
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    Last edited by Colorful; 10-21-2015 at 09:00 PM.

  4. #354
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    It should be 1 year of inactivity rather than 45 days. 1 year is a clear sign a player has dropped the game. 45 days just seems like too short of a time, especially with the kind of content drought we have had 5 months between 3.0 and 3.1. It will be even worse in the future.
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  5. #355
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    Not interested in housing. I am fine with these empty slums (wards) being cleaned up, however.
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  6. #356
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Where do you work where you're able to take a 90 day vacation... or even a 45 day one? And in the case that you're self employed, are you unable to login just once and pop into your house quickly while on vacation?
    So basically owning a house requires a lifetime subscription, and you support this terrible idea.
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  7. #357
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    So basically owning a house requires a lifetime subscription, and you support this terrible idea.
    No, owning a house requires that you're playing the game and making use of the house, and I support this fantastic idea.
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  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    No, owning a house requires that you're playing the game and making use of the house, and I support this fantastic idea.
    Owning a house requires lifetime subscription whether you want to take a break or not.
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  9. #359
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    You're right, it isn't my place, nor it is yours. It's SE's choices and they've decided on 45 days.
    So if they did decide that people with more/earlier Savage clears could evict people with fewer/later Savage clears and buy their plot out from under them, you'd just take it on the chin and say "Welp, no problem here, that was SE's call and they made it."?
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  10. #360
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crater View Post
    So if they did decide that people with more/earlier Savage clears could evict people with fewer/later Savage clears and buy their plot out from under them, you'd just take it on the chin and say "Welp, no problem here, that was SE's call and they made it."?
    "No, owning a house requires that you're more skilled in the game, and I support this fantastic idea."
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