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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    What is sad is this game makes MILLIONS every month, what are they doing with the money?
    If you think SE is letting the XIV team keep even a tenth of those profits, you have no idea how a large conglomerate business works.

    All profits from XIV are remitted back to SE, and SE then apportions them back a chunk of them in the form of a yearly budget. The XIV team was lucky that they're not officially paying off 1.0 (they wrote that investment off) - if that was the case, the game would still be in the red.

    As it is, they're profitable to the company, but SE does not and will never let them keep 100% of the money from monthly subscriptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    If you think SE is letting the XIV team keep even a tenth of those profits, you have no idea how a large conglomerate business works.

    All profits from XIV are remitted back to SE, and SE then apportions them back a chunk of them in the form of a yearly budget. The XIV team was lucky that they're not officially paying off 1.0 (they wrote that investment off) - if that was the case, the game would still be in the red.

    As it is, they're profitable to the company, but SE does not and will never let them keep 100% of the money from monthly subscriptions.
    SE just pulled of a full data center move in less than a day, I would hardly argue that they are under that tight of budget constraints, especially since they are all ready half way through their fiscal year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle View Post
    SE just pulled of a full data center move in less than a day, I would hardly argue that they are under that tight of budget constraints, especially since they are all ready half way through their fiscal year.
    That was good fortune and luck and also probably the majority of their entire FY 2015 hardware budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    As it is, they're profitable to the company, but SE does not and will never let them keep 100% of the money from monthly subscriptions.
    Not 100%, no, but for heaven's sake, give them enough of a budget to make the game functional. In too many areas (including this one) it's a disgraceful couple of decades behind the rest of the industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Not 100%, no, but for heaven's sake, give them enough of a budget to make the game functional. In too many areas (including this one) it's a disgraceful couple of decades behind the rest of the industry.
    Unfortunately there's really no need: as long as enough people still sub and play, they don't see it a reason to do any drastic change: they make enough money with the least of effort whatsoever, which is the basic of commerce.
    They MIGHT do something when the threshold gets lower but even then I doubt anything will change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Not 100%, no, but for heaven's sake, give them enough of a budget to make the game functional. In too many areas (including this one) it's a disgraceful couple of decades behind the rest of the industry.
    Naw, it's SOP for corporate business. One reason I jumped ship to a tiny start up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
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    I hate to tell you this but SquareEnix is a business first and foremost. If you can't pay they aren't going to cater to you regardless of the reason behind it. You can't walk into a store and demand goods without having any money. It's the same thing. It may seem harsh but unfortunately that's just the way it goes, especially for limited content in very high demand. They have to give it to their paying customers because that's where the money is. Customers who aren't paying unfortunately aren't on their priority list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OfTheWhitewind View Post
    I hate to tell you this but SquareEnix is a business first and foremost. If you can't pay they aren't going to cater to you regardless of the reason behind it. .
    Your just like the rest your gunning for people to lose their home. When in fact there are only 1440 houses per server with over 5k people per server. You have better odds of going outside and getting struck by lighting then getting a house. Once the 45 days are up your going to be back here crying that you still don't have a house.

    This is not a fix to housing, Se needs to open their wallet and make sure that every player/FC on the server can own a home. Instead they are putting players against each other and holding the people who do have a house hostage to a subscription!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    Your just like the rest your gunning for people to lose their home. When in fact there are only 1440 houses per server with over 5k people per server. You have better odds of going outside and getting struck by lighting then getting a house. Once the 45 days are up your going to be back here crying that you still don't have a house.

    This is not a fix to housing, Se needs to open their wallet and make sure that every player/FC on the server can own a home. Instead they are putting players against each other and holding the people who do have a house hostage to a subscription!
    I don't own a house for the very reason that I don't entirely agree with the "paying customers get housing priority" thing. :P I don't think it's unreasonable either though but I personally don't want any part in that mad scramble until SE fixes it which I am sure they will eventually. But sure, go ahead and keep assuming that I guess. I'll watch from the stands.
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    Last edited by OfTheWhitewind; 10-23-2015 at 10:19 PM. Reason: wording...

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    As much as I'm glad they are finaly doing something about the housing situation this is just a bandaid and a bad one at that. Other than the first clean wave of totally unsubed characters getting their houses wiped I doubt this will effect the wards much at all.

    How long will SE dance around the fact that they drew themselves into a corner when they flipped the switch to give company housing plots to individual players? The plot system was never designed with personal housing in mind but a lazy decision from on high forced the sharing of the estates. The longer they prance around the fact that they need to FIX the housing system instead of duct tape the bursting seams shut means it will be harder to ever implement a proper system.
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