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    The problem came from trying to debate the issue in the scope of an entitlement. That implies an inherent right to the virtual asset....which does not exist for this service.

    Once you start to argue using entitlement as an argument, there can be no winner when everyone feels they have an exclusive right. Doesn't matter if it is truly a right or just feels like it should be. You've devolved the debate purely into the emotional arena, and logic flies out the window.

    Common sense should prevail....somewhere...but everyone's judgement becomes clouded by the emotional aspects and things just spiral out of control from that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raist View Post
    The problem came from trying to debate the issue in the scope of an entitlement. That implies an inherent right to the virtual asset....which does not exist for this service.

    Once you start to argue using entitlement as an argument, there can be no winner when everyone feels they have an exclusive right. Doesn't matter if it is truly a right or just feels like it should be. You've devolved the debate purely into the emotional arena, and logic flies out the window.
    I just don't feel players should be using it as argument to want the time frame extended. Apologies if I'm very defensive and argumentative over this, but if players simply want a longer time frame, they don't have to bring arguments like this into it when it's already being taken widely out of proportion.

    Edit: @Kyros, I think the housing system needs to be redesigned altogether. I admit I've taken this a little too on the emotional side, but people needed realise that were not saying 'people that are sick deserve to have their houses demolished' but that it's not difficult to stop it from happening.

    Either way, whatever people's opinions on the whole subject, people can't argue that the housing system isn't great right now. It's not going to solve anything in the long term and it does need a proper fix.

    Again, apologies if anyone has misread anything I've said, however my intention was not to claim people deserve their houses demolished if they are unable to log in, but the fact it can easily be stopped unless players are completely unable to play in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    A player who is paying their subscription and is actively playing has just as much entitlement as a player who can't play because of uncontrollable situations and the sooner people realise this, the better. Just because someone can't play because of something unfortunate does not give them any benefit over someone who actually is playing the game and wants a house.
    Per your reasoning then players who play have no more entitlement than players that are still subscribed but are not currently playing.

    It's kind of a ridiculous argument to minimize the importance of outside factors while greatly exaggerating the importance of in-game ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    I just don't feel players should be using it as argument to want the time frame extended. Apologies if I'm very defensive and argumentative over this, but if players simply want a longer time frame, they don't have to bring arguments like this into it when it's already being taken widely out of proportion.
    I didn't even bring cancer patients here to begin with, but the people saying stuff like "Oh if you have cancer treatment then its ok to lose your house" need a reality check, and probably take a serious Psycopathy test (Because it takes some serious lack of empathy to say that).

    Besides, I didn't say any of those. I simply don't like having THE biggest investment on a timer, simply because SE can't be arsed to do their job properly. Nothing in this game works like that, and it's quite frankly a ridiculous timer. It feels like this:



    If we're going to go about "Limted Resources", why not Server space like someone mentioned? Have your character removed from a congested server to make space. Heck, for a more real example: Names. Most companies will swipe off unused names after a certain amount of time, but this time usually goes for >years<. Tera used a year, and League goes from 6 months to 2 and a Half years depending on how much you played.

    This is why this time frame is ridiculous. Losing your house and getting about 30% worth of items back in 2 months (Or none, if you take 3), when compared to things like losing your name (Which is basically a free deal) really put things into perspective.
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