Can we get an Official clarification on housing Demolish timer (45 or 90?)

[Catwho]

My best friend's dad briefly picked up 1.0 while he was undergoing chemotherapy for leukemia. His biggest complaint was that the hospital's WiFi game was too weak for him to actually play DURING treatments.

[WinterLuna]

My best friend's dad briefly picked up 1.0 while he was undergoing chemotherapy for leukemia. His biggest complaint was that the hospital's WiFi game was too weak for him to actually play DURING treatments.

Yeah, people who have actually been or are ill know that it's completely unrealistic to say they couldn't log in at all for 45 days, especially when a lot of people who are ill have nothing to do during treatment and actually find themselves playing more.

Realistically, any illness beyond that (terminally ill or in a very bad state) would be silly to say they cared about their online, pixelated home anyway.

I get really defensive about this because it seems people are using illness as an excuse to want the time extended and it's very inconsiderate, when actually most people who are ill disagree.

[Darthzilla]

We're not talking about not logging in for a year or not keeping your subscription paid, we're talking about 60 or 90 days kick timer instead of 45. 60 or 90 days won't hurt anyone and it would definitely be fair and still get the truly absent players out of the housing.

[WinterLuna]

We're not talking about not logging in for a year or not keeping your subscription paid, we're talking about 60 or 90 days kick timer instead of 45. 60 or 90 days won't hurt anyone and it would definitely be fair and still get the truly absent players out of the housing.

What difference would that make other than extend the time that active players have to wait? As stated many times, all people have to do is log in which takes what, 60 seconds? And even if they can't access their PC or console, they can't get someone else to log in for them within those 45 whole days?

[Kyros]

What difference would that make other than extend the time that active players have to wait?

And what difference would it make to free the plots earlier? For the new house owners it means a month and a half less wait. For old owners it could easily mean a year's worth of work.

As said, if you are not going to log in once every 45 days, then the house was not dear enough to you, and thus there is no sympathy to be had.

Dear god you are a terrible human being. Your personal greed knows no bounds if you think like this. Oh and darling, a FC house != a personal house.

Fact is, all of you people are acting like freaking ravens and saying stuff that would make any human being lower his head in shame (Seriously, saying cancer patients and military deployed shouldn't worry about their house, the hell?)

And all of this for.. a measily extra month and a half of wait? You do realize that this in no way solves the issue of housing availability, and chances are that all you people currently wishing all kind of foul things to house owners will probably still not be able to own a house with this system? Or is math too difficult?

The fun thing is that anyone who gets a house this way, will probably start complaining that "45 days is too short!" about a month after owning one.

[WinterLuna]

Wait, 'wishing all kind of foul things to house owners'? Way to blow it way out of proportion much?

Oh, and nobody said 'cancer patients shouldn't worry about their house', the fact is that it takes two minutes to log in and save your house which is EASILY doable unless you're in some kind of vegetated state, which then (as you blew out of proportion again) leads me to say if they ARE in that state, do you honestly think they're going to be worried about that?

Don't twist people's words around in attempt to solidify your argument especially when some of the very people you're arguing against both 1) own houses and 2) are actually ill themselves. Getting pretty tired of people trying to 'white knight' when most of the people who actually come into contact with these situations think 45 days is fine.

[KaedrianLiang]

This chocobo hatchling avatar. I want it.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

No offense, but then you are not someone SE will cater to. Not everyone burns through content quickly nor is running it all the want to do. Why should these players be punished when they're actively paying for those 3-5 month intervals because others have unsubbed to play something else? It's just bad business on SE's part, and makes far more sense to offer benefits to consistently paying customers as those are the people likely to stick with you longer.

...? Aren't casual players the ones that unsub the most because FFXIV "isn't their whole life" like they've accussed hardcore people of doing and to play other games, the ones that have told hardcore people that it's okay to take a break and unsub then come back? You gotta be kidding me. You ask why should people who keep paying be punished, well, I could ask Why should people that own a house and pay for the game be punished if something happens that it's out of their control? They did not implement this flawed system in the first place. These people who own a house probably had to make some sacrifices to be able to find a plot of land and they deserve all the right to it since they found it and bought it first. Unless they completely stop playing, they deserve the plot they bought.

Whatever though, not surprised by the OF anymore.

[Raist]

There are no RL issues that can cause a 45-day period where you absolutely CAN'T log in for like a minute, while able to pay a subscription.
And if you actually come up with something so drastic, then losing some virtual items should be the least of your concerns.

First time I sent my laptop to Asus to fix an issue with the display blinking out, it was gone for 6 weeks. They didn't fix it right, screen still blinked out once it got warmed up...discovered the low voltage signal cable to the monitor was crimped and shorting out...eventually it went for good and actually melted into the plastic. Had to send it back and it took me just over 8 weeks of wrangling with them about fixing it on their dime because THEY failed to do a proper inspection when I sent it back to them for the very problem the first time.

Just one example of a scenario where 45 days could not be long enough. May seem outlandish...but things do happen that could keep someone away from the game for extended time frames.

A RL friend was out of the game for months because of a botched transfer from PS3 to PS4. His laptop couldn't run it. What if he had played for 2 years straight, had a really nice personal house?

Losing a job and being on unemployment, not able to justify the expense of an online game during that time. What if they are out of work for more than 45 days before they feel they can resub? What if, again, they were loyal to a fault from Beta4 and have a nice personal estate set up?

Just saying....for the personal housing, they should probably give people a little more wiggle room than just a flat 45 days.

[WinterLuna]

Why should people that own a house and pay for the game be punished if something happens that it's out of their control?

Not aimed at you in particular, but if people just said 'I don't think 45 days is long enough' instead of dragging specific things like military deployment and illness into it then there would be a lot less arguments and people disagreeing with the whole situation.

A player who is paying their subscription and is actively playing has just as much entitlement as a player who can't play because of uncontrollable situations and the sooner people realise this, the better. Just because someone can't play because of something unfortunate does not give them any benefit over someone who actually is playing the game and wants a house.

I'm actually going to just leave this thread though since the OP's previous post kind of infuriates me. Can't believe people think it's okay to twist people's words like that.