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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Okay, firstly, why are you bumping this thread without meaningful input? Can we not leave it go the way of all other poorly thought out ideas? Secondly, adhering to what I just said, there is a 'noob lock' in party finder in the form of Minimum iL.
    Firstly, we're bumping the thread for obvious reasons, can you not rudely comment without meaningful input?

    Secondly, item level has absolutely nothing to do with skill. I have people in my FC who are item level 190+ and have never entered Thornmarch Extreme in their life, nor know any of the mechanics for them.

    You can get a good item level purely by spamming expert roulette for Esos, but it doesn't mean you have any idea how to execute mechanics in other duties.

    Also, nothing is 'hampering a player's ability to use party finder' when players shouldn't have any need to join a farm party unless they've cleared in the first place.

    Please come back when you decide not to be rude in my thread and when you have something other than a 'poorly thought out idea.'
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    Last edited by WinterLuna; 10-19-2015 at 11:59 PM.

  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    there is a 'noob lock' in party finder in the form of Minimum iL. A 'noob' isn't likely to have an iL in a certain range so that should keep your farm parties 'pure'.
    I am i190 and never cleared Bismarck Ex. I can join a Bismarck Ex Farm Party for my clear? Awesome!
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  3. #273
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    Also just throwing it out there. I have cleared bismarck and my ilvl is under 190. I tank in 150 accessories that are melded.

    ilvl is not even close to being indicative of skill level.
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  4. #274
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    Anyone who ever thinks that ilvl is a source of skill needs to only look up information on the shitstorm that was "gearscore" in World of Warcraft. >.O
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  5. #275
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    I'm going to say no... this is how some people get clears.
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  6. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    I'm going to say no... this is how some people get clears.
    Exactly? You've just completely enforced my point.. People shouldn't be joining farm parties for clears!
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  7. #277
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    We have had this tool to help assist both new and experienced players for years. Taking it away and forcing people to use the /shout method or begging is only going to make clearing content and assisting others more of a hassle. New players will be especially affected, as many will have outdated content they are new at doing, and th3y might not have the connections to get the belp they need.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 10-20-2015 at 12:05 AM.

  8. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    We have had this tool to help assist both new and experienced players for years. Taking it away and forcing people to use the /shout method only is only going to make clearing content and assisting others more of a hassle. New players will be especially affected.
    The option would be exactly that, an option. It would be used to help form farm parties, which new players shouldn't even be going near.

    I'm not asking them to take away anything. Players can still use party finder, they don't have to resort to /shout. All this is doing is stopping people from joining parties they are not supposed to be joining.

    How will new players be affected exactly? Because they can't join a farm party to get their clear? They can still make their own clear party or join another one. The only thing they can't join is something specifically created for experienced players only.

    And yet were back to the 'nobody helps new players' argument, which is complete nonsense, plus players can actually form their own parties in party finder instead of replying on other people who want to farm.
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    Last edited by WinterLuna; 10-20-2015 at 12:16 AM.

  9. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    We have had this tool to help assist both new and experienced players for years. Taking it away and forcing people to use the /shout method or begging is only going to make clearing content and assisting others more of a hassle. New players will be especially affected.
    What are you talking about? OP only wants option to make a PF party which only players with clear could join. It is proper request for someone interested in farm parties.

    No one except liars would be affected.
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    People still just reading the title...



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