Block first timers from Party Finder!

[karateorangutang]

Easy, link your totem (token clear item like page etc.) or the weapon you bought with it or you are getting kicked. It's that simple. It literally takes seconds and if it's in your retainer well you can go grab it real quick I'll wait a sec. Or even link you achievement. If you can't or refuse, buh bye. There is zero excuse why you wouldn't be able to do one of these things.

That would work sure, but what if people throw those out... i mean really I dont need tears in my inventory as I won't need them. So your gonna kick somebody cause they want their inventory clear?

If there was a checkmark in PF that disallowed those without the quest clear then there would be a 0% chance of failure or human error. It takes any misunderstanding or bristling personalities out of the question. How is that possibly a bad thing?

[Eidolon]

Easy, link your totem (token clear item like page etc.) or the weapon you bought with it or you are getting kicked. It's that simple. It literally takes seconds and if it's in your retainer well you can go grab it real quick I'll wait a sec. Or even link you achievement. If you can't or refuse, buh bye. There is zero excuse why you wouldn't be able to do one of these things.

*Walks up to NPC in Iddylshire, links straight from the vendor - both the token and the weapon*

/fc "Hey guys,c an someone link me one of the Hive weapons?"

*Examines random player, links their item instead*

Edit-in: Oh, and don't forget you can just re-link what someone says in party.

Three easy workarounds.

[Dante_V]

*Walks up to NPC in Iddylshire, links straight from the vendor - both the token and the weapon*

/fc "Hey guys,c an someone link me one of the Hive weapons?"

*Examines random player, links their item instead*

Three easy workarounds.

Not one of them is a work around to showing you achievement on your profile when when everyone shows a token and we are still getting the message.

[Dante_V]

Let's be real here, if we go in get a message, drop, and demand a show of tokens and 8/8 people show them, well then someones obv lying. Beyond that the chances of the OP's suggestion getting implemented are small for what should be obvious reasons. So you will either proactively weed these people out when the message pops or deal with them there. That's on you. It's a non issue for me. If the people can't be bothered to take ten seconds to actively show they have the achievement then they can find another party.

[Choko_TS]

Just kick the newbie out, problem solved. This option would def. feel like harassment and many people would use it to block newbies. But honestly ? I dont give a damn fuck. Now ay SE would ever implement this and block new guys from content, cuz people want it. They'd quit game = loosing money. Deal with it, simple as that. This whole topic's a big joke tbh

[karateorangutang]

Just kick the newbie out, problem solved. This option would def. feel like harassment and many people would use it to block newbies. But honestly ? I dont give a damn fuck. Now ay SE would ever implement this and block new guys from content, cuz people want it. They'd quit game = loosing money. Deal with it, simple as that. This whole topic's a big joke tbh

Read the last two pages on identification of the "newbie". Then we can talk.

Yet you are here, wasting time on the issue, and doing so in futility because the suggestion isn't going to happen. The fact of the matter is a clear doesn't mean a successful farm regardless which makes all of this moot because bad players get carried. ESPECIALLY on Jenova. You will get a lot further enforcing performance standards against all players regardless of clear than wasting time weeding out people who haven't cleared if your conditions are clear and farming.

Your right, SE wont change anything so we should just lay down and accept anything that is given to us....

This wouldn't be the ultimate end all fix for something like this. I would however prevent those who want to take advantage of a party that is more likely to know what its doing for selfish reason. You have yet to provide an argument as to why this is a bad idea outside of extravagant methods that are in place now (which are inefficient) and they won't change it because they are SE.

If you can concoct a truly valid reason why this is a bad idea I'd be glad to hear it. I'm sure you'll get a much better response that way.

[WinterLuna]

Just kick the newbie out, problem solved. This option would def. feel like harassment and many people would use it to block newbies. But honestly ? I dont give a damn fuck. Now ay SE would ever implement this and block new guys from content, cuz people want it. They'd quit game = loosing money. Deal with it, simple as that. This whole topic's a big joke tbh

I will repeat myself for maybe the 10th time now? There's no way of telling who is new until you've entered and observed the players and have seen who is messing up, which is a massive waste of my time and everyone else's who is trying to farm. Please explain how it can be used for harassment? This is OPTIONAL and would only be used for farms. You'd have to have the clear in the first place to be able to use the option. And as I've said AGAIN, Square aren't against the idea when a party finder setting for experienced players only already exists and just can't be enforced.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Honestly, they should just removethe pf requirement. People already avoid learning or clear parties like the plague, and I can't really see this doing anything other than making such parties even more non existent.

[Whiteroom]

Honestly, they should just removethe pf requirement. People already avoid learning or clear parties like the plague, and I can't really see this doing anything other than making such parties even more non existent.

There is a nice fellow on Jenova who has been running BEX clears since it came out. I wish there was some kind of a commendation system for people like him.

[WinterLuna]

Honestly, they should just removethe pf requirement. People already avoid learning or clear parties like the plague, and I can't really see this doing anything other than making such parties even more non existent.

This is untrue. People will help others and they do all of the time. I could give plenty of examples in my own experience of people joining my Ravana Ex learning parties purely to help out. The issue comes when people expect others to help them or carry them through content when others are trying to do something else.



A Thornmarch Ex party I helped the other day. What's funny is only two of them admitted they were new which only furthers my point. And yes, they were completely new and we wiped many times, they didn't know the fight and just 'not have the clear'.