Block first timers from Party Finder!

[karateorangutang]

Ok, I guess the title got to me. I've kinda wondered about preventing this in certain runs, but didn't want to be rude to people in game. I'm sorry to the OP.

It's pretty common in the thread lol. The title is really misleading...

I know the OP petitioned to have it changed but no dice.

[Eidolon]

I always find it funny when people complain about bumping.

Not only are they bumping - they're also off topic. A massive double fail of sorts.

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Thinking on this I do hope this gets added. I have too many people who try to sneak into a1s weekly clears - or even worst, leading them after I boot them for not knowing the fight demanding everyone else knows the fight. While I don't think this makes the majority, it does prove that there are players with this fundamental deficiency that want to try and sneak a carry.

[Akariel]

I agree with this. Had someone sneak into our A2 weekly clear party before. It's pretty hard to fill up a PF for savage, and then when the party gets in and the bonus pops up... . Waiting around 1hr in PF and then having the decent people rage quit because of 1 player is not fun.

[Mychael]

I agree with the concept behind this, but I'm not sure that clearing a fight says anything about your skill or understanding of it. All those people that were carried through previously would still qualify for your farm group.

I hate to say it, but the only way you're going to guarantee experience is by actually knowing the people.

[Whiteroom]

I agree with the concept behind this, but I'm not sure that clearing a fight says anything about your skill or understanding of it. All those people that were carried through previously would still qualify for your farm group.

I hate to say it, but the only way you're going to guarantee experience is by actually knowing the people.

Well obviously previous clears would get by. This is far from the end of the game though. The sooner this is introduced the better its effectivness.

[Mychael]

Well obviously previous clears would get by. This is far from the end of the game though. The sooner this is introduced the better its effectivness.

And bad players will continue to join open groups, whether they've cleared or not. New ≠ Bad, Experienced ≠ Good.

[Sapphic]

And bad players will continue to join open groups, whether they've cleared or not. New ≠ Bad, Experienced ≠ Good.

Thing is they joining parties without filling the requirements that the PF creater has asked for, it only takes a minute to ask the PF leader and explain there situation and give the party leader the choice of taking them along or not. If they agree and it's a disaster, they went in knowingly. It's polite to ask first, it's not when someone enters a party asking for clear experience and doesn't say anything until the party enters the content and the bonus tomes message shows up. How much of an impression do you tink that will leave when they find out who it is? Not to mention wasting peoples time.

It wont stop run buyers and those who get carried joining, but it would reduce it. Also it may have the knock on benefit of more players joining learning parties if they know they can't sneak into a farm party to get their clear. As I can imagine their thought process of being something like "Why should I spend time wiping on learning the content when I can just sneak into a farm party and get the others to do it for me?"

[Mychael]

It wont stop run buyers and those who get carried joining, but it would reduce it. Also it may have the knock on benefit or more players joining learning parties if they know they can't sneak into a farm party to get their clear.

I couldn't agree more. I'm not saying there isn't a problem, just that nothing could be changed in the Party Finder that would actually fix it. Bad players will continue to find ways to sneak into your group.. I see so many 'bad' people in groups and it has nothing to do with the first time clear. A lot of new (to the content) players have studied every guide available and will outperform others.

Don't get me wrong, an "Experienced Players Only" checkbox on the PF could help, but it's <10% of the problem. If only there could be a "Don't Suck" checkbox--but people would ignore it just like they do the current ones.

[Whiteroom]

And bad players will continue to join open groups, whether they've cleared or not. New ≠ Bad, Experienced ≠ Good.

Thank you for stating the obvious. But what does your comment have to do with the thread.