One or more players are doing this dungeon for the first time.

[Uhm]

Or however the sentence goes...
I think people don't pay enough attention to this. Why does almost nobody wait until at least one person has explained the fight mechanics to the new person (especially if they even asked for this themselves) BEFORE the fight? I start typing, someone pulls the boss, and in the end I have to explain that you shouldn't kill the bunny things and turn them into snowballs while evading AoEs and whatever else I'm doing. Is it the extra experience that makes people rush so much? Maybe it should be changed to "Get the new guy the dungeon mapping achievment" or something. Though you get that pretty much automatically in most of the new dungeons. I think everyones first run of a dungeon (or boss) should be a good experience.

[PotatoWafflez]

If they are too lazy to ask at the start of the dungeon, they have all the trash up until the boss to ask, if they don't they probably won't read it anyway.

Even then most tactics are simple and just require some common sense and observation there is no excuse to not pick them up mid-fight.

Not to mention why would you want to spoil a fight for a newbie.

TLR not a babysitter stop expecting other people to spoon feed players

[T2teddy]

Well mister food and drink lover, maybe said new player might appreciate not spending the whole boss fight dead on the floor? I mean hey how hard is it to say watch for Mortal Gaze and turn your back , and switch to the other colour of floor when you see its divided into two colours? Easy peasy.
Or as another example the yeti in snowcloak. Don't attack the spriggans, do attack the yeti and the haplit?

Information avoids needless wipes or overly long fights.

Just sayin'...

[PotatoWafflez]

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Right because you totally can't figure either of those things out if you have common sense or observation skills. You have 3 chances to figure out the two AoE mechanic if you are too lazy to find out the difference between red and blue and not connect the dots that's your problem. There are doom removing plates for gaze as well so that's a forgiving mechanic if you don't focus target and mess up till you get it down.

Sprigs spawn more than one at a time and if you still attack them after seeing them turn into snowballs you clearly have no intention of actually thinking about what you are doing.

Not to mention my point was made on the fact that they waited until reaching the boss to ask for information

[Dramatic]

From my experience it's normally the people who rush off when there are new players who throw raging bitch fits as soon as the tiniest mistake is made as well.

First time I did the Chrysalis one of the Tanks said they were new, the other replied with 'Ugh I don't have time for this', rushed in, and we wiped, ironically spending more time than if someone had explained.

I always help if I can. It's not about spoonfeeding, I just enjoy being a decent and helpful person.

[Archaell]

People on "farm" mode are not going to wait no matter what - these usually don't even wait for buffs.

Personally if somebody doesn't ask what to do, I don't waste time explaining mechanics - unless my judgement call tells me that we might risk wipe. Usually it is just "don't stand in front of boss, dodge aoes, or kill adds" anyways. You can see what others are doing.

Also when somebody says "Hey, I am new" I expect them to at least spend one minute reading ffxivdungeons. That's the usual thing you would be told by other party members so better read it yourself to make sure you get the idea about the fight.

[MrTride]

Well depending on my current Role i react differently to the "new player" notice. If im a tank / healer i usually take more note to those things. But i usually always ask before a fight if everyone knows what to do. If someone has doubts id rather take those 20 sec to fill in on a boss fights core mechanics.

Call it spoon feeding or w/e I dont care, its less of a frustration if people gets a heads up before the fight, even if they didnt fully understand what i meant. You can never expect a first timer to fully comprehend a fight without experiencing it first hand, but it sure helps if they atleast know that some adds shudnt be killed like... bombs in copperbell mines anyone? Too be honest most of the rushing nancies from duty roulette makes this fight a pain in the ass.

[Uhm]

Not to mention my point was made on the fact that they waited until reaching the boss to ask for information

In that spriggans case he did in fact ask at the beginning of the dungeon. But even right before a boss asking is okay, perfect use of the time it takes to cast stoneskin. My advice is to always watch a video before the fight, but some people like to ask directly I guess. That's the fun thing about mmos, there are actually people to communicate with. Letting people learn by themself is fine if everyone is patient.

[Uhm]

Personally if somebody doesn't ask what to do, I don't waste time explaining mechanics - unless my judgement call tells me that we might risk wipe.

Yeah, okay, I get that. I only do it if someone asks too.

[MistakeNot]

Yeah, okay, I get that. I only do it if someone asks too.

Sometimes there is little time to ask any questions. If the rest of the party rushes ahead as quickly as they can through the whole dungeon - then if I were to stop and spend 30 seconds to write a coherent question I would be far behind the rest of them.
With groups that take a more moderate pace this not much of a problem - there will be pauses long enough to write a question - but with extreme speed-runners it is a problem.