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    I don't watch live letters for the same reason I don't watch subtitled anime. I don't speak Japanese, and I don't care if someone streaming it subtitled it because I can't read that text. Too small and too fast and my vision sucks.

    That said, I can't believe people are complaining about the company not spending all their profits on this game.

    SE has more than one franchise. More than one game. Might want to give employees a raise. Dumping all profit into development of one product at the expense of everything else is a terrible business plan and anyone suggesting such should never work in business management. Ever.
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    Square isn't 'dumping it all' into XIV. Square actually has several game presently in development or nearing release. Dragon Quest Heroes is coming out soon, that was in development while XIV AND XI is operating. There's XV coming soon(TM), people have said it's looking very promising. They are also developing XI's mobile spin-off in anticipation with XI's eventual shutdown. And then there's Tomb Raider coming soon(TM). Square never really just does one thing, I can't think of any companies that do.
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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Square isn't 'dumping it all' into XIV. Square actually has several game presently in development or nearing release. Dragon Quest Heroes is coming out soon, that was in development while XIV AND XI is operating. There's XV coming soon(TM), people have said it's looking very promising. They are also developing XI's mobile spin-off in anticipation with XI's eventual shutdown. And then there's Tomb Raider coming soon(TM). Square never really just does one thing, I can't think of any companies that do.
    Precisely, yet everyone whining that they're making "all this money" and not spending it on content in *this* game don't seem to understand that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Precisely, yet everyone whining that they're making "all this money" and not spending it on content in *this* game don't seem to understand that.
    Yeh, we have no idea how much money they make or how they spend it. Meh, if people are unhappy with lack of content, or whatever, unsub. Wallet speaks the most to SE, did people forget what happened with 1.0? No one subbed, everyone left...and look what happened.

    I mean I agree, this game needs more variety, it needs a lot...but meh, they don't seem to listen to the player base like they used to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I mean I agree, this game needs more variety, it needs a lot...but meh, they don't seem to listen to the player base like they used to.
    They listen just fine. They just literally can't add everything any player has ever suggested on a whim.
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    I seriously doubt financial and time resources are a major limiting factor here. It's a very simple technical fact that more model diversity requires more system memory. FF14s memory budget is heavily restricted by the PS3 and they are throwing every kind of memory saving technique they can in order to get it all to fit. This is the main reason everyone moves the same regardless of race or why we don't have race specific gear qualities like specific models to handle tails or such. The time resources to poke a hole in some gear and save the model is trivial but the memory requirements to do something like this is tremendous and simply something they don't have the memory budget for.

    I guarantee they blew through most of their memory budget they originally set aside for Heavensward by making the unique Eso gear sets. That is likely why Alex Savage gear is just dyable Alex gear. I'm sure the design team would have loved to have made the Savage gear a little more flashy, but they simply do not have the memory budget to do so.

    So really, don't expect any kind of major gear diversity as long as the PS3 continues to be a supported platform. They simply do not have the memory budget to diversify any more than they already are.
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    Last edited by Ladon; 10-17-2015 at 08:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladon View Post
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    You clearly lack any knowledge of this subject, so why bother assuming things without doing a little bit of research beforehand? The game does not render everything at the same time, when someone comes into your proximately wearing that piece of gear is when your game will load them. The quality of the gear on the other hand? Yes, but that can be scaled back for PS3 and already is iirc, it's just that we on PC don't have many options to scale it up. The only thing that's constantly saved on your system is the actually data, of which a PS3 can have just as much as a PS4 can.

    It has everything to do with developer limitations, they're struggling to get this patch out on time, let alone create 20 other gear sets. This isn't a PS3 limitation, and I have to say, it really bothers me when people talk about PS3 limitations and spout nonsense like this. There are cases where the PS3 is hindering the game, so if you feel the need to make a PS3 complaint post, cite one of those.

    One last thing if you're not quite convinced, every single piece of gear would have been pushing the PS3 beyond its limits according to the logic you used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    They listen just fine. They just literally can't add everything any player has ever suggested on a whim.
    They listen? soo..we've interesting stats on our gear and horizontal progression? WOOOEEEEEEEEEE where!? Lemme tell my friends so they can come back O_O

    They...they added real NM and not invisible FATES!? They stopped palette swapping...wait..

    There has been more then adequate time with how long they delayed the expansion to add at least interesting stats to our gear, or at least ONE new variety of content....but nothing. But they listen, right?

    I recall people asking for this way back in 2.0, so you think from 2013 - 2015 they can't introduce ONE of these things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    They listen? soo..we've interesting stats on our gear and horizontal progression? WOOOEEEEEEEEEE where!? Lemme tell my friends so they can come back O_O

    They...they added real NM and not invisible FATES!? They stopped palette swapping...wait..

    There has been more then adequate time with how long they delayed the expansion to add at least interesting stats to our gear, or at least ONE new variety of content....but nothing. But they listen, right?

    I recall people asking for this way back in 2.0, so you think from 2013 - 2015 they can't introduce ONE of these things?
    Just let them get their white knight class up to level 60, apologists litter these forums. Even something like 5/12 jobs share the same gear model for new content is defensible to them. When no one takes this game seriously anymore, the apologists here can look forward to playing LoTR online reborn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    They listen? soo..we've interesting stats on our gear and horizontal progression? WOOOEEEEEEEEEE where!? Lemme tell my friends so they can come back O_O

    They...they added real NM and not invisible FATES!? They stopped palette swapping...wait..

    There has been more then adequate time with how long they delayed the expansion to add at least interesting stats to our gear, or at least ONE new variety of content....but nothing. But they listen, right?

    I recall people asking for this way back in 2.0, so you think from 2013 - 2015 they can't introduce ONE of these things?
    Let me reiterate. They literally cannot add every single silly and/or stupid idea people have, no matter how badly they want it. Wanting something =/= entitlement to that thing. Sorry to break it to you. And everyone else with your attitude.

    Don't like it? You can always unsubscribe.

    They tried NM's with hunts. Tell me, do you think if NM's could only be claimed by one group, FFXI style, and contained exclusive and powerful loot there wouldn't have been an insane outcry from the community?

    If the Devs don't want horizontal progression there wont be horizontal progression. It's as simple as that. Not to mention, just because you want horizontal doesn't mean the next person does too. Which is entirely the reason there aren't 'complex'/'interesting' stats on gear.
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    Last edited by Tilgung; 10-17-2015 at 01:41 PM.

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