Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
I fully agree, and posted something similar in this thread, but there was actually a good point brought up in response to it... The players can only see that they're doing bad, if they get players that aren't bad themselves. Even if they do like double their DPS, that doesn't really say much nowadays in dungeons.

I don't know what have happened since 2.X, but 300-400 DPS on a boss fight in a dungeon, is the normal now, 1000+ DPS is like a once in a month discovery (for me at least).
Well the game does force you to run instances many times, so you will see a good cross section. So the counter that it depends on who you get in your run, becomes moot fairly quickly.

The sad part about the numbers you posted is that an ilvl 186 DRG with a 180 weapon can do 600 just spamming the thrust combo and nothing else. No buffs or procs. Just three base actions. That people are in defense of people doing half of that as just fine is a little crazy.