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  1. #91
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    Don't think it'll be ever be too bad until we get cash shop BiS item gambling systems, Japanese games tend to love those
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  2. #92
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    Why are comparing a Free to Play game to a Pay to Play Games. Free to Play game always ended up costing more and many times they will try to make you pay no matter what. Also, they need to the money to survive in Free to Play game.
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  3. #93
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    Lala Felli
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Destiny I bought the expansion it wasn't worth it for the price horrible match making and no match making where there should be.
    Friends boost each other to unlock the thorn or cheaters unlock thorn by cheating and they took a long time to get rid of cheaters but it was too late I quit.

    Even their expansions aren't what I expect the lack luster and no new good weapons G.horn is best gun still and they made expansions.

    The store probably over priced junk that you can get from raids.
    Nice post mate. Looks like you didnt buy the expansion and have no clue what you are talking about.

    Also to OP: Destiny sells 18 emotes in their cash shop that doesnt alter the gameplay any way at all. They even let you choose two of those that you like for free. How the hell is that worse than a cash shop in p2p game? Especially when they are gonna give the new content for free until Destiny 2 comes out.
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  4. #94
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    From a business standpoint, it's one of the most brilliant moves in the industry. Previous games that sell inventory space only get a one time fee; MMO market standard sub fee has basically been stagnant. Yoshi finally found a way to increase it, while not scaring off (more) new players with an even higher monthly fee.

    As a player, though, yeah, it sucks.
    I don't know, if they have to increase the sub fees, I'd rather they increased the sub fees - would be straightforward and direct, instead of cornering players into a situation where they eventually "have" to pay more anyway. Throwing items from the past in a cash shop in a P2P game - that's just shady and leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Those who keep on p(l)aying already paid for all those, and they're just making others pay for them too. Whether it affects the gameplay or not is completely irrelevant, this is the core of it in either case. And it's not like they couldn't make those items obtainable in-game if they wanted to.
    Especially with this "reasoning" that that cash shop purchases contribute to further development of the game itself - er, what happens with all the subscription money then? Yes, they're launching an actual European datacenter - now, more than two years after launch. Why is it that pretty much everyone else can do that right at the start of a game? And at the same time (now, more than two years later, with lots of content patches and an expansion later) we're still getting the "can't do it because of servers" blahblah when it comes to a bigger inventory, either directly or via retainers - and oh, look, it actually can be done, it just has to be a rent model because they apparently need more money...? Even more shady.
    No, the whole thing just doesn't sit right. Especially in a game where the devs have been (used to be?) so obsessed with "restoring trust" and being transparent and communicating with the players. Dunno about others, but I personally don't like being taken for a fool.
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    Last edited by BreathlessTao; 10-15-2015 at 07:07 PM. Reason: AND THIS BLOODY CHARACTER LIMIT IS ALSO STILL TOTALLY MIND-BLOWING IN THE WORST WAY POSSIBLE.

  5. #95
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I don't remember Sleipnir ever being free.
    Never is Sleipnir any better than other mounts nor should it be a common mount. Most time high prices are mean to create inhibition to keep something rare ("should i really pay this price for it?")

    Other solution to give it "for free" without hurting the rarity is giving it out like the Fenrir mount ("should i really grind 1m MGP for it?").
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-15-2015 at 08:19 PM.

  6. #96
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    I find it funny that some people refuse to even touch a subscription game but will gladly fork over 20-30 a month for cash shop items in other games. As for destiny if its just the emotes, those are completely pointless other than for laugh factor to me, so not needed and easily ignored. Same with mogstation, only difference being we pay monthly to play this (dunno about Destiny, don't play) but I still feel everything should be obtainable.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Then new players or existing that missed the event will complain about them not being able to get the item cause they missed the event. The Gold Saucer could used for this but without the cash shop it most likely would just become a unobtainable item which circles back to the first part of my post.

    IIRC, FFXI let you buy seasonal items from last season from a vendor. Why can't they do that with FFXIV? Well, they can... but then they can't milk players for more monies.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    IIRC, FFXI let you buy seasonal items from last season from a vendor. Why can't they do that with FFXIV? Well, they can... but then they can't milk players for more monies.
    Or make the items tradeable. This way the players, who did the event, can buy it from the calamity NPC and sell them to the players who missed it.
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  9. #99
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    Ac Ungarmax
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen a reasonable cash shop in an F2P game. They monetize it up and down. (Though, as you point out, they kind of have to to stay in business...)
    DotA2 is F2P done perfectly. That game makes huge amounts of money, and not once have I even felt slightly compelled to spend a single cent on it.
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Or make the items tradeable. This way the players, who did the event, can buy it from the calamity NPC and sell them to the players who missed it.
    Bit off topic, but speaking of the calamity NPC - does anyone know if BOTH of the ghost costumes are available from there? During that very first ARR Halloween event, I know for a fact I had received that first costume, but I never completed the quest for the 2nd (I think one was a smile, one had a frown). Somehow I ended up dropping the costume (sad day, I always keep my fluff stuff!), but the calamity NPC doesn't give me any options for a ghost costume.
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