The issue nobody wants to address

[Urthdigger]

Yes, I will admit, I would use a parser to judge people. Because when a party is wiping again and again on content, unable to clear it due to not meeting DPS checks, I would rather kick the ONE person just slamming their fists on the keyboard rather than disbanding and making everyone fail. I've seen this on Bismarck EX, Ravana hard, Aery, Qarn hard... all over the place. Especially when it's the second or third boss on a dungeon, to tell everyone to just give up and go home with nothing because one person is just spamming their level 1 ability instead of comboing.

But apparently that makes me an asshole.

I can do that without a parser, true, and I do attempt to do so when DPS checks aren't being met. but I doubt me eyeballing the chat log is as accurate as a program noting down the damage everyone has done. Especially if I'm trying to heal and DPS just in case a miracle happens and those of us actually playing can eke out a flawless routine and grasp victory by the skin of our teeth.

Sometimes a player is AFK off to the side and it's easy to see. Other times it's less obvious, like if they're still hitting the monster but doing no combos. Sometimes it's 8-man content and I can't keep an eye on everyone, especially if I'm trying to do my own job.

This isn't about speedruns. Hell, I don't think any of the pro-parser people have brought up speedruns. This isn't about yelling at people for being 10 DPS below the other person. This is about easily identifying players who are keeping a group from finishing a run so advice can be given, or more likely so they can be kicked because DPS are special snowflakes who should never be advised under any situation, and they are ever so happy to remind me of the fact every time one does poorly.

[MentheusDreyar]

Yes, I will admit, I would use a parser to judge people. Because when a party is wiping again and again on content, unable to clear it due to not meeting DPS checks, I would rather kick the ONE person just slamming their fists on the keyboard rather than disbanding and making everyone fail. I've seen this on Bismarck EX, Ravana hard, Aery, Qarn hard... all over the place. Especially when it's the second or third boss on a dungeon, to tell everyone to just give up and go home with nothing because one person is just spamming their level 1 ability instead of comboing.

But apparently that makes me an asshole.

I can do that without a parser, true, and I do attempt to do so when DPS checks aren't being met. but I doubt me eyeballing the chat log is as accurate as a program noting down the damage everyone has done. Especially if I'm trying to heal and DPS just in case a miracle happens and those of us actually playing can eke out a flawless routine and grasp victory by the skin of our teeth.

Sometimes a player is AFK off to the side and it's easy to see. Other times it's less obvious, like if they're still hitting the monster but doing no combos. Sometimes it's 8-man content and I can't keep an eye on everyone, especially if I'm trying to do my own job.

This isn't about speedruns. Hell, I don't think any of the pro-parser people have brought up speedruns. This isn't about yelling at people for being 10 DPS below the other person. This is about easily identifying players who are keeping a group from finishing a run so advice can be given, or more likely so they can be kicked because DPS are special snowflakes who should never be advised under any situation, and they are ever so happy to remind me of the fact every time one does poorly.

100% agree this is pretty much the view from all the pro parser crowd.

When you're failing content, and tbh piss easy content at that even with overgeared players there is something definitely wrong with the majority of the community. This in-ability to even do simple things is what pisses everyone off. The game is NOT hard except on Savage, its pathetically easy in most other area's.