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  1. #31
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    The only reason this would exist is for glamour, as you'd easily outlevel any piece of gear in a levelling dungeon after only a few tries.
    Sure it's nice that you can get your glamour piece after 10 or so runs instead of 20+, but those 20+ attempts end up helping Greenleaf Newplayer with his first time in, keeping the queues healthy and filled.

    You gotta think of the bigger picture as to why you're going back into that dungeon. It's not for that piece of gear, it's because SE wants you in to help new players with maybe a cool piece of gear as your reward for doing so.
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  2. #32
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    _slowpoke_'s Avatar
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    Yayadon Yadon
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    The only reason this would exist is for glamour, as you'd easily outlevel any piece of gear in a levelling dungeon after only a few tries.
    Sure it's nice that you can get your glamour piece after 10 or so runs instead of 20+, but those 20+ attempts end up helping Greenleaf Newplayer with his first time in, keeping the queues healthy and filled.

    You gotta think of the bigger picture as to why you're going back into that dungeon. It's not for that piece of gear, it's because SE wants you in to help new players with maybe a cool piece of gear as your reward for doing so.
    The existence of the Undersized Party option pretty much voids your entire argument. Plus, the roulettes already exist for that purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leveva Heavensreader
    A realm where one must apologize for being a victim is no realm worth living in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hall of Novices, on Healer DPS

  3. #33
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    Etiken's Avatar
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    Nissa E'yegha
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by _slowpoke_ View Post
    The existence of the Undersized Party option pretty much voids your entire argument. Plus, the roulettes already exist for that purpose.
    Totally agree. It was a nice try but Canadane totally overlooked undersized partys. If SE wantd us to be there for the new guys all the time, they would have done a lot more than implement a feature that helps us avoid them lol.
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  4. #34
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    CGMidlander's Avatar
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    I love this

    please implement this ASAP.

    also the NPC has to be called Shady McGee
    And make Shady a Lalafell.
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  5. #35
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    Cidriel Tausendklingen
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    That's arguable, farming an item over and over again and not getting it does ruin my day and this does improve the quality of my in-game life...
    No, you must understand, that is not the "qualify of life" how it is used colloquially in relation to changes to the game. "QoL" is when S-E patched in an NPC to take you from the Idyllshire aetheryte right to Hinterlands, without having to Sprint your way to one of the zone boundaries. It was not strictly necessary, but you have to admit it is convenient for those that need to leave the AFK crowds very quickly.

    A token system is a not a quality of life change.
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  6. #36
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    Evanoel Crownguard
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    Do want. I agree with OP.
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  7. #37
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    Yayadon Yadon
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsusama View Post
    A token system is a not a quality of life change.
    Token systems - whether in endgame content or otherwise - avoid or lessen burnout. Avoiding burnout is very much a quality of life change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leveva Heavensreader
    A realm where one must apologize for being a victim is no realm worth living in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hall of Novices, on Healer DPS

  8. #38
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    Dotsusama's Avatar
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    Cidriel Tausendklingen
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by _slowpoke_ View Post
    Avoiding burnout is very much a quality of life change.
    I'll agree to leave the "QoL or not QoL" point aside because whether or not it is it just detracts from the main point.

    How will giving the player the gear they want, faster, avoid burnout? They will just find something else that they want. Once they reach the same sort of probability wall, demand they demand THAT content be made easier / given to them sooner, etc, and the cycle begins anew. Given RNG insurance for EX primals. Raids. Desynthesis!

    ...no.

    I have my eye on a particular glamour piece from Brayflox (I still don't have the Cavalry Skirt...) I queue up normal mode and help players that were there as part of roulette, or were leveling. It's not that much faster than running it solo and I'm not the only person to benefit.
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  9. #39
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    WinterLuna's Avatar
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsusama View Post
    In the case of glamour, it means they must have at least one class at 50 or higher. Then they can just run those low level instances, solo or duo, un-synced to farm as much gear as they want, as long as it takes to obtain it. There is no need to implement a new system for this.
    RNG is RNG. You could run it once as a low level and get the drop, or 500 times unsync and not get it. Being level 50 doesn't increase your chance of getting the item nor makes it any easier to obtain when it's a random drop.
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  10. #40
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    Cidriel Tausendklingen
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    Being level 50 doesn't increase your chance of getting the item nor makes it any easier to obtain when it's a random drop.
    Yes it does. Experience, gear (even when sync'd down to the level of the content), the ability to lead players to complete content faster, OR to go in solo and brute force your way through a dungeon in mere minutes...

    The unsynced feature makes it inherently easier to complete low level content. That's the whole point of it. If a player does not use this to acquire glamour equipment, mounts, or just to feel powerful, then that's their choice but there is zero point to an alternative to it when the feature is already here.
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