The issue nobody wants to address

[Colorful]

We also have this "dps" oriented meta right now - that's even funnier. So tanks and healers are now supposed to dps? Oh common, get your bloody dps together, dps scrubs (I don't mean it as evil as it sounds). If the dps players could perform (I don't talk about savage btw, that's different) then the tanks and healers could focus more on their job.

It's always nice when Healers and Tanks try their best in dungeons, meaning DPSing. I mean, you've overgeared the content, why not throw out a few damage abilities instead of sitting there idling while you wait until someone needs healing? I don't heal, but what exactly does doing their job better entail when the enemies put out pathetic amounts of damage, making sure everyone stays at 100% at all times? Seems like a waste of time to me. If you're expecting a DPS to do their best, both Healers and Tanks should too otherwise you're being a little hypocritical (note: I don't expect Healers to DPS, but I love the ones that do).

Did a DREX yesterday where both the Tank and Healer were putting out a lot of DPS, and both DPS were putting out 1100+ DPS. That was a nice really nice run.

[Archaell]

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I don't actually expect dps players to do their best. I expect them to do well enough.

btw. I have nothing against tanks (ok, maybe a little bit, as I want to dps too ^^) and healers who dps. If the situation allows it, dpsing as tank/healer can be really rewarding. But tanks and healers should not substitute for poor dps, they should provide it as an extra - As you said it leads to nice runs.

[Colorful]

I don't actually expect dps players to do their best. I expect them to do well enough.

btw. I have nothing against tanks (ok, maybe a little bit, as I want to dps too ^^) and healers who dps. If the situation allows it, dpsing as tank/healer can be really rewarding. But tanks and healers should not substitute for poor dps, they should provide it as an extra - As you said it leads to nice runs.

My bad, a DPS doesn't really have an excuse to be doing sub 800 DPS in a dungeon, let alone sub 600 in (almost) full i200. I do hold the belief that in a perfect world, both overgeared tanks and healers should be DPSing when doing content far below their gear level, but I also hold the belief that DPS should be trying as hard as possible. I suppose that's what the commendation system is for, I wish I could give out more than one at times.