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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Well the question is, even if we had official parsers... what are you gonna do about someone playing poorly? Put up pretty words as you forcibly kick them from a party that could still have facerolled almost any given content with? You'd probably get reported for that, and honestly... that's rightfully so for that situation. Maybe offer some assistance and expect them to suddenly be better in a matter of seconds/minutes? Believe that you helped that one person, then you suddenly come upon more that you feel needs to be helped, and actually think you'll have the patience to deal with that time and time again? Or, in that situation, would you just become complacent and be back to square one, as though nothing had changed?

    I'm not against parsers and would love to see them be official, but this fairy tale belief that they'll suddenly save the whole game from the existence of a bad player is ridiculous and needs to die off lol. Parsers don't even affect bad tanks or healers in this game much, and yet there are A LOT of them around. So you hold a bad DPS accountable... big deal. What does that do? It merely gives you a tool to look down on someone and tell them they need to improve. What does that honestly give you? A pointless witch hunt that does absolutely nothing from the perspective that it spares others of bad players. Chances are, if anyone actually pays attention to that in content that it doesn't matter, you'd actively be looking for someone to "burn at the stake".

    Throw that argument and fairy tale defense away and stick to the actual benefit of players that WANT to find self betterment. They're the ones that need the parsers, even though they are likely also the ones who already do use them, or at the very least already are decent at the game because they follow guides/advice. For the long-term bads you encounter now, they will always be bad, and you'll complain and do nothing about it
    You know, I wasn't going to respond to this as I considered it foolish and that you were most likely trolling, but you took the time to write it out, so I will respond.

    At no point did I, or anyone allude to parsers being some magical cure all (Hint: there is no full party esuna for all excuses for sub par play, not having an absolute solution for something doesn't mean you don't try to improve it...)for everything wrong with the game. That you think anyone is saying it is even close to an absolute is a little comical.
    You suggest improvements that you think will make the game better, and I believe that this will. For reasons that have been stated time and time again, in countless threads, so no point of repeating them in this post.

    It's also funny that you seem to think that I or anyone would think they would react the same to every scenario in game, while you yourself have the grand wisdom to see that each situation is different, and will be handled on and individual basis, based off any number of factors.

    That you seem to think that bads gonna be bad is a contradiction to you asserting that people react differently at different times even. Of course ther will be those who will always be bad. But not all players who are bad will remain bad is what you left out. Those who think that they are going on fine or even great, when they are actually face with the numbers that show them if they are right or wrong, are likely to react to those numbers. Those DRGs that think keeping their buffs up don't really have that much of an effect for example, or those BRDs who don't keep up dots or buffs, not to mention those dps who think wearing fending acc doesn't change your output much, or even that person who was advocating SCH not using cleric stance to apply dots in the other thread, would be able to see that it is actually a signifigant difference. Now while there would be some who don't change at all, there will be a lot who will.

    As has been stated a million times, its not about making all players world first level raiders, it's about giving the population a tool they can use to improve their own game, as well as their teams.

    P.S. whats with the off hand fear mongering about getting reported for kicking? the statement that players who are not playstyles not matching the rest of the group is an acceptable reason to kick, is generally accepted enough that I feel no need to link it. I have kicked very few people, but never once has there been a fear of reprecussions from a GM. I honestly can't see anyone but an extreme worrywort even taking this into consideration. I mean, you would see at least an odd post from people contending the GM action if it was remotely common, and I've seen none as of yet. Not to say it can't happen, but it has to be so rare as to not matter.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 10-07-2015 at 02:25 AM.