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  1. #101
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    Yoruichi4478's Avatar
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    Kya Purrcy
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    Hyperion
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    Bard Lv 80
    I respond as I go along a thread, I don't have the time to make notes and then make one post and don't go insulting ppl either. I know how to quote ppl I just didn't hit it with other things going on I didn't realise it doesn't make me stupid or inept, just distracted. And this is derailing the thread so keep focused on the OP plz.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    The only thing I'm serious about right now is the fact that you need to learn how to multiquote. :3

    Or, y'know, even quote at all in 95% of your replies.
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  2. #102
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    Dawnshade's Avatar
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    Iris Dawnshade
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    Hyperion
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    To be fair I also didn't feel the power of MCH till I hit around fifty four.. hitting sixty and I was able to feel a nice "oomph".
    Oh good to know! I'm still in the 4x levels and I keep on asking myself "Am I playing wrong or is the damage just that bad?" and was starting to lose hope a little 'cause I do enjoy the skill set but seeing how little damage I'm doing is disheartening.
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  3. #103
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnshade View Post
    Oh good to know! I'm still in the 4x levels and I keep on asking myself "Am I playing wrong or is the damage just that bad?" and was starting to lose hope a little 'cause I do enjoy the skill set but seeing how little damage I'm doing is disheartening.
    Wildfire + All your available buffs and oGCD attacks is so satisfying it's ridiculous. Mmm yes
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  4. #104
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Understandably Bard isn't the powerhouse people seem to want to think it is. It can do respectable damage but if you want a ranged DD that can really bring the hurt then you need Black Mage. Bard is about the songs. Everyone has a move that can recover or grant MP or TP, but Bard can do it for longer and for anyone within range. Can even impose a magic resistance debuff on enemies. Only Machinist can equal such utility but, like Bard, they trade for it in reduced damage output. Our stances make up for this carrying the balance of reduced mobility and no auto attacks. Like a Black Mage. We're still not as potent as a Black Mage but that's because we can still use our party buffs and debuffs with no reduction in their efficacy. I honestly don't know what people were really expecting out of Minuet aside from the rather obvious 'cake' analogy.
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  5. #105
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    Dawnshade's Avatar
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    Iris Dawnshade
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    Hyperion
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Understandably Bard isn't the powerhouse people seem to want to think it is. It can do respectable damage but if you want a ranged DD that can really bring the hurt then you need Black Mage. Bard is about the songs. Everyone has a move that can recover or grant MP or TP, but Bard can do it for longer and for anyone within range. Can even impose a magic resistance debuff on enemies. Only Machinist can equal such utility but, like Bard, they trade for it in reduced damage output. Our stances make up for this carrying the balance of reduced mobility and no auto attacks. Like a Black Mage. We're still not as potent as a Black Mage but that's because we can still use our party buffs and debuffs with no reduction in their efficacy. I honestly don't know what people were really expecting out of Minuet aside from the rather obvious 'cake' analogy.
    I was expecting damage on par with WAR!

    Edit: This time I'm kidding, don't rip my head off D:
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  6. #106
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoruichi4478 View Post
    TERA archer charging skills for potency depending on how long you hold it down or until it maxed out and still being able to move while doing so vs FFXIV bard with a caster bar that interrupts and no actual charging bar just a constant reminder of what they've done to the job.
    TERA archers are also slowed by like 60% when charging.
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  7. #107
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    Dotsusama's Avatar
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    Cidriel Tausendklingen
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    Bard was one of the jobs I could play to "unwind" as a DPS at 50 back before HW. Now it's a chore to just get it to 60 again, and even solo (maybe ESPECIALLY solo) I find that WM hampers my enjoyment significantly.

    "Oh but if you like it just turn it off", yes and lose a lot of damage potential and not to mention lock myself out of new abilities that work only with WM active. No, thanks. I just want Bard back. I did not sign up to be a Bow Wizard. I have a Black Mage for that and, lo and behold, I CAN move as a BLM because it was inherent to the way the class played from Level 1, not something that was forced upon me hundreds of hours later.
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  8. #108
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    Anyan's Avatar
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    Zundar Sunstriker
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 91
    I wish they'd branch the archer class, like an arcanist can become a summoner or a scholar. Archer could choose to become the supportive Bard that goes toodelitoot with the harp, or become a full dps bowsman like this --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk
    That would make me pick up the bow again. As it is now, I'm so disappointed with the class that I don't want to play it any more.
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    Last edited by Anyan; 09-28-2015 at 12:07 PM. Reason: grammar derp

  9. #109
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anyan View Post
    I wish they'd branch the archer class, like an arcanist can become a summoner or a scholar. Archer could choose to become the supportive Bard that goes toodelitoot with the harp, or become a full dps bowsman like this --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk
    That would make me pick up the bow again. As it is now, I'm so disappointed with the class that I don't want to play it any more.
    They've outright said no to another branching class because they dislike how Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar turned out.
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  10. #110
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    Zundar Sunstriker
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    They've outright said no to another branching class because they dislike how Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar turned out.
    It's just a wish. I also think it's an awesome idea. :P
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