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    GunsBlazing's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalvy View Post
    scholar is technically summoner lite. That fairy is created based on the same principles as a summoner's egi--it's a portion of the caster's own soul. Theoretically they can summon bigger things, but SCH in Nym only focused on supporting the WARs in the royal marines.
    This is absolutely incorrect. You are literally GIVEN the fairy at the end of the first Scholar quest. You do not summon it yourself, it is tied to the Soul of the Scholar. Alka Zolka basically says, "Ain't no marauder got time for this, it's all you," and gives you the stone (Obviously because he didn't want to deal with the fairies, himself). You do not have a spell in lore to call these fairies, they are merely tied to an item you possess. Alka Zolka could have had the fairies if he kept the stone. Summoning is ENTIRELY different. Lore wise, scholar is weak. Again, intelligence =/= strength. Intelligence in battle is more about how efficient you use the strength that you have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krylo View Post
    Man, I don't know. Who's more powerful, the guy who hits a dragon with a giant axe, or the guy who cold clocks the dragon across the face for more damage than the giant axe?
    Technically, Monk's strength comes from hitting more times, quicker. Their individual hits aren't very strong. Go ahead and try to crit harder than a properly utilized fell cleave on monk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunsBlazing View Post
    This is absolutely incorrect. You are literally GIVEN the fairy at the end of the first Scholar quest. You do not summon it yourself, it is tied to the Soul of the Scholar. Alka Zolka basically says, "Ain't no marauder got time for this, it's all you," and gives you the stone (Obviously because he didn't want to deal with the fairies, himself). You do not have a spell in lore to call these fairies, they are merely tied to an item you possess. Alka Zolka could have had the fairies if he kept the stone. Summoning is ENTIRELY different. Lore wise, scholar is weak. Again, intelligence =/= strength. Intelligence in battle is more about how efficient you use the strength that you have.
    I seiously doubt SCH is that weak, since they weren't outright destroyed by WHM and Void Mage factions during the Magi War. Void mages tried taking their home multiple times and failed, and if anything it would seem they had a strategic advantage that forced the Void mages to resort to biological warfare instead of pure power.

    And the Sharlayans SCH are no joke at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunsBlazing View Post
    This is absolutely incorrect. You are literally GIVEN the fairy at the end of the first Scholar quest. You do not summon it yourself, it is tied to the Soul of the Scholar. Alka Zolka basically says, "Ain't no marauder got time for this, it's all you," and gives you the stone (Obviously because he didn't want to deal with the fairies, himself). You do not have a spell in lore to call these fairies, they are merely tied to an item you possess. Alka Zolka could have had the fairies if he kept the stone. Summoning is ENTIRELY different. Lore wise, scholar is weak. Again, intelligence =/= strength. Intelligence in battle is more about how efficient you use the strength that you have.
    Have you ever thought about reading supplemental material that SE occasionally puts out in interviews and articles? Because that's where the idea that fairies are elementals that you summon from your own essence, like egi, comes from. The only difference is that part of an egi comes from a slice of a primal's essence, which itself is limiting for summoners, because it's only as strong as your own aether is. SCH is doing the same thing; 'summoning' an elemental using their own essence.

    Stop by the lore forum sometime.
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    Last edited by Dalvy; 09-29-2015 at 06:40 PM.