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  1. #61
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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Chloe Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    I'm not wrong though.

    The only way for a player to become a Machinist, is to first unlock Ishgard. Which requires them to be another, better, more accomplished class/job first. It's really counter-intuitive to the themes and message of their Job's story line.
    Well one thing the MCH Job storyline mentions during the first quest is that it hints the WoL has a head start over other MCH. For example, A Limsa starting WoL would be mentioned to be a Limsa adventurer implying he or she already have some skills above other people with a Gun. So most likely compared to other characters the WoL is the only ones that start out as lvl 30 while the NPC start out as level 1.
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  2. #62
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Goldsmith.
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  3. #63
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    Chloe Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Goldsmith.
    Don't you mean Godsmith?

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  4. #64
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    Zar'tan Vosloo
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    Lamia
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    Conjurer Lv 34
    Lore
    Strongest: MCN
    Weakest: monk
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTofu View Post
    I'll just leave this here:

    MMORPG - Many Men Online Role Playing as Girls

  5. #65
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Lorewise, I'd go for either Ninja or Warrior as the strongest jobs.

    As for as weakest lore wise, I'd imagine it'd be either monk or bard. In the case of bard, they are lore wise not fighters by trade, simply empowering the people around them to make up for their own martial deficiency.

    Monks are weak because they have to smack the mob like 6 times to have any effect.
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  6. #66
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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by azlewood View Post
    Lore
    Strongest: MCN
    Weakest: monk
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Lorewise, I'd go for either Ninja or Warrior as the strongest jobs.

    As for as weakest lore wise, I'd imagine it'd be either monk or bard. In the case of bard, they are lore wise not fighters by trade, simply empowering the people around them to make up for their own martial deficiency.

    Monks are weak because they have to smack the mob like 6 times to have any effect.
    Actually, if we're only going by a pure lore and cutscene standpoint Monks are one of the more powerful classes. A Monk using all 14 Chakra easily reaches god-tier status. I still think one of the magic classes like WHM, BLM, and SMN are likely more powerful, but besides maybe Ninja (I'm not too familiar with them, but it's my understanding that a Ninja using Mudra is a lot like Monk using Chakra), Monk is hands down the strongest of the physical-based classes.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Gunbreaker Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    The fact alone that he was able to do that is all the information you need. The only other person we know of to become a primal was Lady Iceheart, and she wasn't even a fraction of the same strength. Furthermore, he was holding Bahamut back before he even became Phoenix, and cast a powerful binding spell.
    When he held Bahamut back, he was trying to summon the Twelve as primals. When he killed him, he was using a country's worth of prayer and an ungodly amount of aether vacuumed up by Tupsimati. Phoenix is probably one of the strongest primals ever summoned.
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  8. #68
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    shadowrell_d-_-b's Avatar
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    S'niryn Knala
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 90
    SMN because they kick ASS-cian!
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    -By the light of the crystal-

  9. #69
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    KaedrianLiang's Avatar
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AeraCross View Post
    op
    Ishgard have an army of drg's and they get massacred by common dragonskin quite frequently.


    Strongest DoW: WAR, their job quests leading up to fell cleave explain the pvp phenomenon known as double fell cleave.

    Strongest DoM: SMN. lore wise we learn that allagan smns were capable of immense summoning that dwarf what we as the warrior of light can currently achieve. Deathflare is the tip of that iceberg, another pvp wrecking spell.
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  10. #70
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    MiniPrinny's Avatar
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    Sakura Yukimoto
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    As many has said, in terms of raw destructive power, Summoners. Not only are they capable of outright destroying lesser Ascians, they now channel the power of an Elder Primal which makes them by far the most powerful. However, I would argue they have some competition. Warriors and Monks have complete control over their bodies and mind, giving them the pinnacle of physical prowess. In addition, Dark Knights tap into the Abyss, a source of power we have yet to fully understand the limits of, if there even are limits. And finally, we have Astrologians, who can adjust how fate plays out before them based on the movements of the stars and their ability to channel the great amounts aether held within said astral bodies.

    Edit: I'm not going to pick on Bards and Machinists. They have it rough enough it is as "normal" people, but at least as "normal" heroes they still possess enough aether to make their music or machinery vastly influence the flow of battle.
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