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  1. #51
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    Eye_Gore's Avatar
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Machinist be like:

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  2. #52
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
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    She just damaged the airship to delay them from reaching Asyz Lla didn't she? Midgardsormr destroyed it and is still alive.
    Without the help of all Eorzean prayers or the help of a Dragon Horde, i think it's very impressive.
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    Caly Umbra
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Physical strength I'll give to Monks followed by Warrior.

    Overall strength? WHM and BLM at their peak. SMN is a runner up.
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    Last edited by Calypsx; 09-27-2015 at 09:22 PM.

  4. #54
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Without the help of all Eorzean prayers or the help of a Dragon Horde, i think it's very impressive.
    No doubt, but I really don't think it's comparable to Midgardsormr's power that has grown since what, more than a few millenia ago?... I don't remember the hint they gave about Midgardsormr's age.
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  5. #55
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Without the help of all Eorzean prayers or the help of a Dragon Horde, i think it's very impressive.
    She used her light crystal she had from Hydalin
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  6. #56
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    No doubt, but I really don't think it's comparable to Midgardsormr's power that has grown since what, more than a few millenia ago?... I don't remember the hint they gave about Midgardsormr's age.
    I didn't mean to say she was powerful as Midgardsormr. But sometimes I think that she is heavily understimated even when she did that.
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  7. #57
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    Justin Tymes
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by GunsBlazing View Post
    This is absolutely incorrect. You are literally GIVEN the fairy at the end of the first Scholar quest. You do not summon it yourself, it is tied to the Soul of the Scholar. Alka Zolka basically says, "Ain't no marauder got time for this, it's all you," and gives you the stone (Obviously because he didn't want to deal with the fairies, himself). You do not have a spell in lore to call these fairies, they are merely tied to an item you possess. Alka Zolka could have had the fairies if he kept the stone. Summoning is ENTIRELY different. Lore wise, scholar is weak. Again, intelligence =/= strength. Intelligence in battle is more about how efficient you use the strength that you have.
    I seiously doubt SCH is that weak, since they weren't outright destroyed by WHM and Void Mage factions during the Magi War. Void mages tried taking their home multiple times and failed, and if anything it would seem they had a strategic advantage that forced the Void mages to resort to biological warfare instead of pure power.

    And the Sharlayans SCH are no joke at all.
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    Last edited by Wizarus; 09-27-2015 at 10:56 PM.

  8. #58
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    Esmond Rainer
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    The fact alone that he was able to do that is all the information you need. The only other person we know of to become a primal was Lady Iceheart, and she wasn't even a fraction of the same strength. Furthermore, he was holding Bahamut back before he even became Phoenix, and cast a powerful binding spell.
    Actually in the 2.5 quest Nabriales said he has that power from using his staff, which enables him to draw the power from the environment around him.
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  9. #59
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Surely Machinist would be the weakest, since it doesn't require strength to fire a gun? Pulling back on a bow requires a decent amount of strength. Lore wise, I'd argue Warrior is supposed to be the strongest physically as they're basically the same as berserkers. Though obviously that's a far cry from the reality of the game mechanics.
    Well you have to keep in mind that gun making has been in Eorzea for years already. Blacksmiths are constantly improving on guns to advance the technology and most likely have solved a lot of recoil issues allowing easy use for one hand no matter the person's strength.

    MCH skills do show some recoil but only slight push up on a shot.
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  10. #60
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    the marked one is for the access to ishgard. But machinist can learn everybody in Ishhgard who is too weak for the other classes/jobs.
    I'm not wrong though.

    The only way for a player to become a Machinist, is to first unlock Ishgard. Which requires them to be another, better, more accomplished class/job first. It's really counter-intuitive to the themes and message of their Job's story line.
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