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    You know, if we're taking things Jobs can't actually do, but certain NPCs are shown to do, into account (like Astrologian stopping time), then however strong Ninja is you need to multiply by four. That fourth Mudra turns Ninja into a one man Light Party, and between that, the stealth, mobility, and great deal of utility (which includes healing, seeing as NPC Ninjas seem to have some OP potions on hand at all times) Ninja has... Warrior might be able to split rocks, and Black Mage might be able to summon them, but a Light Party of Ninjas (which is just one Ninja) could end any of them before they get the chance to do their thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    You know, if we're taking things Jobs can't actually do, but certain NPCs are shown to do, into account (like Astrologian stopping time), then however strong Ninja is you need to multiply by four. That fourth Mudra turns Ninja into a one man Light Party, and between that, the stealth, mobility, and great deal of utility (which includes healing, seeing as NPC Ninjas seem to have some OP potions on hand at all times) Ninja has... Warrior might be able to split rocks, and Black Mage might be able to summon them, but a Light Party of Ninjas (which is just one Ninja) could end any of them before they get the chance to do their thing...
    Player ASTs are capable of stopping time. It's what Celestial Opposition is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Player ASTs are capable of stopping time. It's what Celestial Opposition is.
    Is it? Because I'm reading "Stun" instead of "Stop", though even if it applied a Stop effect (which is really no different than Stun, except I imagine it would pause cooldowns as well, and not interrupt cast times, just pause them... kinda want that now...) that would still be a Stop effect on targeted individuals. Time wouldn't be paused, just peoples perception of it.

    Still arguably powerful, but... If I shoot an Astrologian, them pausing my perception of time does not stop my bullet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    it also increase the duration of the ast buffs on the whole party
    Which is the same effect as Time Dilation, and the NPC actually explained how Time Dilation "cheats" our perception of time, IIRC. Realistically if either were real time manipulation, they'd not be limited to the Astrologians buffs (see: 2.5s Ascian fight, where real time manipulation occurs and it extends the duration of all our buffs).

    Astrologian messes with time perception, not time itself. That's still powerful, but it's not dodge bullets powerful. Though as Y'stola has demonstrated countless times, you don't need to dodge bullets when you have a bubble shield...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Is it? Because I'm reading "Stun" instead of "Stop", though even if it applied a Stop effect (which is really no different than Stun, except I imagine it would pause cooldowns as well, and not interrupt cast times, just pause them... kinda want that now...) that would still be a Stop effect on targeted individuals. Time wouldn't be paused, just peoples perception of it.

    Still arguably powerful, but... If I shoot an Astrologian, them pausing my perception of time does not stop my bullet.
    it also increase the duration of the ast buffs on the whole party
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