Strongest Job Lorewise?

[GunsBlazing]

scholar is technically summoner lite. That fairy is created based on the same principles as a summoner's egi--it's a portion of the caster's own soul. Theoretically they can summon bigger things, but SCH in Nym only focused on supporting the WARs in the royal marines.

This is absolutely incorrect. You are literally GIVEN the fairy at the end of the first Scholar quest. You do not summon it yourself, it is tied to the Soul of the Scholar. Alka Zolka basically says, "Ain't no marauder got time for this, it's all you," and gives you the stone (Obviously because he didn't want to deal with the fairies, himself). You do not have a spell in lore to call these fairies, they are merely tied to an item you possess. Alka Zolka could have had the fairies if he kept the stone. Summoning is ENTIRELY different. Lore wise, scholar is weak. Again, intelligence =/= strength. Intelligence in battle is more about how efficient you use the strength that you have.

Man, I don't know. Who's more powerful, the guy who hits a dragon with a giant axe, or the guy who cold clocks the dragon across the face for more damage than the giant axe?

Technically, Monk's strength comes from hitting more times, quicker. Their individual hits aren't very strong. Go ahead and try to crit harder than a properly utilized fell cleave on monk!

[Wizarus]

This is absolutely incorrect. You are literally GIVEN the fairy at the end of the first Scholar quest. You do not summon it yourself, it is tied to the Soul of the Scholar. Alka Zolka basically says, "Ain't no marauder got time for this, it's all you," and gives you the stone (Obviously because he didn't want to deal with the fairies, himself). You do not have a spell in lore to call these fairies, they are merely tied to an item you possess. Alka Zolka could have had the fairies if he kept the stone. Summoning is ENTIRELY different. Lore wise, scholar is weak. Again, intelligence =/= strength. Intelligence in battle is more about how efficient you use the strength that you have.

I seiously doubt SCH is that weak, since they weren't outright destroyed by WHM and Void Mage factions during the Magi War. Void mages tried taking their home multiple times and failed, and if anything it would seem they had a strategic advantage that forced the Void mages to resort to biological warfare instead of pure power.

And the Sharlayans SCH are no joke at all.

[Dalvy]

This is absolutely incorrect. You are literally GIVEN the fairy at the end of the first Scholar quest. You do not summon it yourself, it is tied to the Soul of the Scholar. Alka Zolka basically says, "Ain't no marauder got time for this, it's all you," and gives you the stone (Obviously because he didn't want to deal with the fairies, himself). You do not have a spell in lore to call these fairies, they are merely tied to an item you possess. Alka Zolka could have had the fairies if he kept the stone. Summoning is ENTIRELY different. Lore wise, scholar is weak. Again, intelligence =/= strength. Intelligence in battle is more about how efficient you use the strength that you have.

Have you ever thought about reading supplemental material that SE occasionally puts out in interviews and articles? Because that's where the idea that fairies are elementals that you summon from your own essence, like egi, comes from. The only difference is that part of an egi comes from a slice of a primal's essence, which itself is limiting for summoners, because it's only as strong as your own aether is. SCH is doing the same thing; 'summoning' an elemental using their own essence.

Stop by the lore forum sometime.

[MaethusXion]

Don't forget the physical power, I'd say DRG and WAR are physically the strongest. Hell, MARAUDERS still doing their starter quests split boulders.

[Kahnom]

Is mch quest story is about love ? I don't actually read all dialogue but from what I understand,the guild master get pissed off when Joye getting married.

[ElHeggunte]

Godbert Manderville's Goldsmith.

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[AlphaSonic]

Astrologian can stop time and have infinity aether because they draw aether from the stars. Technically they have unlimited power.

[Nalien]

You know, if we're taking things Jobs can't actually do, but certain NPCs are shown to do, into account (like Astrologian stopping time), then however strong Ninja is you need to multiply by four. That fourth Mudra turns Ninja into a one man Light Party, and between that, the stealth, mobility, and great deal of utility (which includes healing, seeing as NPC Ninjas seem to have some OP potions on hand at all times) Ninja has... Warrior might be able to split rocks, and Black Mage might be able to summon them, but a Light Party of Ninjas (which is just one Ninja) could end any of them before they get the chance to do their thing...

[Daralii]

You know, if we're taking things Jobs can't actually do, but certain NPCs are shown to do, into account (like Astrologian stopping time), then however strong Ninja is you need to multiply by four. That fourth Mudra turns Ninja into a one man Light Party, and between that, the stealth, mobility, and great deal of utility (which includes healing, seeing as NPC Ninjas seem to have some OP potions on hand at all times) Ninja has... Warrior might be able to split rocks, and Black Mage might be able to summon them, but a Light Party of Ninjas (which is just one Ninja) could end any of them before they get the chance to do their thing...

Player ASTs are capable of stopping time. It's what Celestial Opposition is.

[Nalien]

Player ASTs are capable of stopping time. It's what Celestial Opposition is.

Is it? Because I'm reading "Stun" instead of "Stop", though even if it applied a Stop effect (which is really no different than Stun, except I imagine it would pause cooldowns as well, and not interrupt cast times, just pause them... kinda want that now...) that would still be a Stop effect on targeted individuals. Time wouldn't be paused, just peoples perception of it.

Still arguably powerful, but... If I shoot an Astrologian, them pausing my perception of time does not stop my bullet.

it also increase the duration of the ast buffs on the whole party

Which is the same effect as Time Dilation, and the NPC actually explained how Time Dilation "cheats" our perception of time, IIRC. Realistically if either were real time manipulation, they'd not be limited to the Astrologians buffs (see: 2.5s Ascian fight, where real time manipulation occurs and it extends the duration of all our buffs).

Astrologian messes with time perception, not time itself. That's still powerful, but it's not dodge bullets powerful. Though as Y'stola has demonstrated countless times, you don't need to dodge bullets when you have a bubble shield...