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    Sky Pirate Island is suppose to be open world mid tier raiding content so the people that have no interest in doing Alexander Savage can get ilvl 210 gear. Aleanader Savage has the same difficulty as Second Coil Savage and Alexander Normal has the same difficulty as nerfed version of Coils. Alexander Normal isn't the problem the real issue is Aleander Savage was tuned for World 1st players just like Coil Savage with nothing in between.

    The reason Alexander Normal has drops is so as many players a possible can experience the story otherwise it'll be like Bismark Extreme where the players who didn't clear it in the 1st two weeks where left out in the cold struggling with pugs to clear it.
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    Last edited by Akiza; 09-27-2015 at 05:57 AM.

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    I think what OP is saying is it's harder to get people excited about these raids than the previous ones. I don't really think the loot side of it is important at all, except for one thing: It's a motivator to do the content.

    Most people probably know the quote: "It's not the destination, it's the journey"

    It's like doing gathering in this game. Would you really go around and mine all those nodes if you didn't get any ore? Some people even tell me they find gathering fun and relaxing but they'd never do it if there was no reward.

    It's a normal misconception that everyone only raids for the loot because surely some only raid for that reason.
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  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    I think what OP is saying is it's harder to get people excited about these raids than the previous ones. I don't really think the loot side of it is important at all, except for one thing: It's a motivator to do the content.

    Most people probably know the quote: "It's not the destination, it's the journey"

    It's like doing gathering in this game. Would you really go around and mine all those nodes if you didn't get any ore? Some people even tell me they find gathering fun and relaxing but they'd never do it if there was no reward.

    It's a normal misconception that everyone only raids for the loot because surely some only raid for that reason.
    Alexander's Story isn't connected to the main lore and story like Coil was. Coil was connected to what happend after the calamity so players were learning about what happend to Bahamut 5 years ago. Bahamut also is the most popular summon in Final Fantasy and Alexander doesn't hold a candle to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Alexander's Story isn't connected to the main lore and story like Coil was. Coil was connected to what happend after the calamity so players were learning about what happend to Bahamut 5 years ago. Bahamut also is the most popular summon in Final Fantasy and Alexander doesn't hold a candle to him.
    Why are you using quote on what I said.... I'm so puzzled.

    Are you maybe saying Bahamut is cooler than Alexander? /shrug

    If gonna say something like that: "Oh no u didn't, Superman could totally beat Goku!" So silly....
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    Too bad SE did not have it set up so the Normal mode has different mechanics or even different bosses than Savage. So you get the STORY mode in NM but the hardcore raiders could then continue into Savage where there would be NEW bosses entirely.
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  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ercapote View Post
    ...that incredible CS of LUIXOIS vs BAHAMUT after t12...
    Breh! SPOILER...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Alexander's Story isn't connected to the main lore and story like Coil was. Coil was connected to what happend after the calamity so players were learning about what happend to Bahamut 5 years ago. Bahamut also is the most popular summon in Final Fantasy and Alexander doesn't hold a candle to him.
    Eh, in everything but FFXIV, Alexander > Bahamut imho, especially FF9. They really butchered Alexander with FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taei View Post
    i agree with OP but I also think that we need to get rid of statics. the Static life is terrible and full of drama.
    I see why statics are needed, though. Unfortunately, statics are why I now play casually and don't log in every day like I used to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    Breh! SPOILER...
    sorry will edit...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    I think what OP is saying is it's harder to get people excited about these raids than the previous ones. I don't really think the loot side of it is important at all, except for one thing: It's a motivator to do the content.

    Most people probably know the quote: "It's not the destination, it's the journey"

    It's like doing gathering in this game. Would you really go around and mine all those nodes if you didn't get any ore? Some people even tell me they find gathering fun and relaxing but they'd never do it if there was no reward.

    It's a normal misconception that everyone only raids for the loot because surely some only raid for that reason.
    finally someone get it...
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    I want to address one thing tho....Some people with reason around here have made some points....COIL was directly attached to the main story of 1.x and even mentioned on the main story of 2.x but ALEXANDER has no ties to the main story, hence making it a secondary story that not everyone needs to see it in other to get what will happen or happened in the main event of the game, so not 100% need to see it... NOW some smart people will come here and say million trash, then let's talk about all the stories behind every Class/Job. why do I need to lvl up to 60 every single class job to see the stories behind them? but I don't see anyone complaining about it... simply because it's not tied to the main story IS NOT RELEVANT is just there as a bonus for the leveling process.... Alexander is just the same
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    Last edited by Ercapote; 09-27-2015 at 06:34 AM.

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