DF Penalty

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It's still a bad idea to begin with and it sounds like you're just mad over the handful of bad runs in DF. If someone is sucking that badly, a simple kick is all you need to do to get rid of them. Stop making "do or die" scenarios that help no one but getting yourself some sort of smug self satisfaction that "justice" was served.

And while current EX primals are not in DF, past EX primals are, along with coil and Alexander normal, so the point still stands.

[KingOfAbyss]

It's still a bad idea to begin with and it sounds like you're just mad over the handful of bad runs in DF. If someone is sucking that badly, a simple kick is all you need to do to get rid of them. Stop making "do or die" scenarios that help no one but getting yourself some sort of smug self satisfaction that "justice" was served.

And while current EX primals are not in DF, past EX primals are, along with coil and Alexander normal, so the point still stands.

You got me wrong, I'm one of those that don't mind spending the entire time allowed to clear anything, even when everyone (including myself) can suck

And once again, your impaired judgement is blinding you. Wonders who have the sense of justice ^^

I don't need anything to feel besides having a good time with people who tries their best but still fails.. BUT NEVER GIVE UP no matter what, until the timer runs out.

Have fun in the game ^^

[RiceisNice]

You got me wrong, I'm one of those that don't mind spending the entire time allowed to clear anything, even when everyone (including myself) can suck

And once again, your impaired judgement is blinding you. Wonders who have the sense of justice ^^

I don't need anything to feel besides having a good time with people who tries their best but still fails.. BUT NEVER GIVE UP no matter what, until the timer runs out.

Have fun in the game ^^

But, your suggestion goes against that. If you get kicked after 4 wipes, you won't even stick around for the timer. And now it shifts around; a single individual could sabotage the entire party and force them all to eat the penalty with malicious intent.

Outside of that, you won't even get those "we definitely got it this time" moments if you get hard kicked after 4 wipes.

[KingOfAbyss]

But, your suggestion goes against that. If you get kicked after 4 wipes, you won't even stick around for the timer. And now it shifts around; a single individual could sabotage the entire party and force them all to eat the penalty with malicious intent.

Outside of that, you won't even get those "we definitely got it this time" moments if you get hard kicked after 4 wipes.

You are right about my suggestion. What I wanted to try here is to make sure everyone that goes in don't use the Leave or Votekick, but tries their best until the end with the random group that the DF provided.

If everyone talks a bit, I'm pretty sure the average group can deal with anything, even if a bit longer.

So then, everyone would get a clear, and there won't be any other issues, except those speedrunners.

And yes, the moments where you have 1 min left, and you clear it, makes this game very enjoyable! So that would be my wish, but then, as you said with vile people that loves to screw others.. its just wishful thinking sadly.