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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    on the dummy no party buff i200 weapon i202 im about 1300-1350 so i guess its about right?
    Hmm seems a bit low, I was doing 1300-1350 at ilvl 195 with higher up crits, and at 198 with average crits. I want to say you should be closer to 1370s with 202. I havent really been doing any tests when I got 200.


    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Also im looking at the first post and their opener is very different to mine. Its the following:

    (PB) Demo --> Snap --> Snap (B4B) --> DK (IR) --> TwS (Pot) --> ToD (Elixir Field) --> Boot (Steel Peak) --> True (Howling Fist) --> Snap (Forbidden C) --> DK --> TWS --> Demo (Pot falls off).

    Question is why not start with Steel Peak --> Demo ? Or is this Double Demo at the start? If that's the case doing a 2nd Snap Punch be waste no as your already at GL3?

    My opener is slightly different at present:

    ST --> Demo --> (PB) SP (B4B) --> SP (IR) --> TwS (StP) --> DK (HF) --> SP (EF) --> ToD --> FC --> BS --> TrS --> Demo (not fully pot optmized yet but yeah. Its what i currently use
    There is no double demo, its just PB at the start, no stance dance, just straight into your rotation from PB. You're probably going to clip 2 dots from demo if you put it that early on.

    This is why they delay their buffs til the last Snap punch or Tws so that the buffs will last til the 2nd demolish which is pushed back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro View Post
    Hmm seems a bit low, I was doing 1300-1350 at ilvl 195 with higher up crits, and at 198 with average crits. I want to say you should be closer to 1370s with 202. I havent really been doing any tests when I got 200.
    Well no matter how much i try, with no food or pot or party buff, im not exceeding 1350 sustained average
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Well no matter how much i try, with no food or pot or party buff, im not exceeding 1350 sustained average
    I honestly think its fine nothing wrong with 1350. I think if you're at 1300-1320(which was why I commented about the 1300-1350 ilv 198 comment) with ilvl 202 theres probably something not being optimized or really low crit RNG, but 1350(1340-1350 consistently) in my opinion is good with average crit rate. I'm at ilvl 201(ill have hands in 2 weeks if I get no drops again) and I can hit 1370s with high crits or medium and lucky crits(as in the majority of those crits are on the right abilities).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro View Post
    I honestly think its fine nothing wrong with 1350. I think if you're at 1300-1320(which was why I commented about the 1300-1350 ilv 198 comment) with ilvl 202 theres probably something not being optimized or really low crit RNG, but 1350(1340-1350 consistently) in my opinion is good with average crit rate. I'm at ilvl 201(ill have hands in 2 weeks if I get no drops again) and I can hit 1370s with high crits or medium and lucky crits(as in the majority of those crits are on the right abilities).
    My crit RNG sucks bad. I get around 15-20%. Only time i hit the higher numbers is if my crit is around 35% but that almost is never the case :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    My crit RNG sucks bad. I get around 15-20%. Only time i hit the higher numbers is if my crit is around 35% but that almost is never the case :/
    That feels horribly low, at ilvl 202 youll probably be roughly around 12-13% crit rate alone. Internal release and boot shine are going to increase your crit average even higher. 35% seems absurdly high, 35% is something you'd get with a dragoon's battle litany, or maybe your crit RNG rolled a 20....

    I'm curious where you are reading your crit values on the app...

    My crit averages around 24% right now. 22% is low for me right now, and my highs are 27-29%. I had 1370 at 29% crit and 1372.8 at 26% go figure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro View Post
    That feels horribly low, at ilvl 202 youll probably be roughly around 12-13% crit rate alone. Internal release and boot shine are going to increase your crit average even higher. 35% seems absurdly high, 35% is something you'd get with a dragoon's battle litany, or maybe your crit RNG rolled a 20....

    I'm curious where you are reading your crit values on the app...

    My crit averages around 24% right now. 22% is low for me right now, and my highs are 27-29%. I had 1370 at 29% crit and 1372.8 at 26% go figure...
    Well, youve setthe bar for me so i will endevour to meet it. Practice makes perfect they say and ill do just that I'm pretty sure its my rotation going wonky somewhere along the way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Well, youve setthe bar for me so i will endevour to meet it. Practice makes perfect they say and ill do just that I'm pretty sure its my rotation going wonky somewhere along the way...
    You're going to hate me now! Hands dropped, bringing it to 203 now, did like 10 rounds, hit 1403 for 2 of them as my highest out of the 10, rest were 1380s with one being 1365 or something like that at 21%(low crit %) The highs had crit of 28% the rest were 24-26%. I know I can spike higher with 30% crit, I had one with 30% but its when I swapped around to ilvl 202 for more acc(as Ill probably have to use this set until legs drop for more accuracy).

    I see that you went to ilvl 204 ,grats! What are the numbers looking like for you now?
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