Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

[Sailysium]

You don't need to spam RB that much. I typically RB a couple times on waves 2-4 each and one more time during the additional wave of adds in the middle of the 4 dolls. I only RB sparingly since as a monk I'm mainly responsible for burning priority adds fast. Doing RB every time there are still 3 or more adds up is overtaxing on tp. Save that for the ranged dps.

[Wannman]

Thank you. Also, for when we get to A3S (and hopefully A4), are most monks using the frontal accuracy caps, or can we stay on the flanks of adds in A3?

[Sleigh]

Thank you. Also, for when we get to A3S (and hopefully A4), are most monks using the frontal accuracy caps, or can we stay on the flanks of adds in A3?

A3 it depends on strat. A lot of times you'll be able to go avoid frontals just because you're a melee, who by default pick up the vulnerability up debuff off the MT, but your group might ask you to come in for the cleaves if you didn't get the debuff, depending on gear levels. The boss does swivel a bit, from tanks moving it and magnets causing it to chase the tank, but it shouldn't cause misses too often if ever.

A4, also strat dependent but less so. If your group stacks in front for the big ball (not really sure why they made front = facing the center other than the boss is technically looking towards the center, immobile, but it's annoying), or if your group has you picking up a doll to feed, you should just gear for frontal. Also it's not uncommon for melee to steal aggro off OT occasionally for Quarantines.

[KaosPrimeZero]

At i206 with i210 weapon I'm ranging 1450-1500, crit rng dependant. Sometimes I dip in and out of that range but that's the ballpark figure as of now. That's with no pty/pots/food and no use of fracture.

on the dummy no party buff i200 weapon i202 im about 1300-1350 so i guess its about right?

[KaosPrimeZero]

Also im looking at the first post and their opener is very different to mine. Its the following:

(PB) Demo --> Snap --> Snap (B4B) --> DK (IR) --> TwS (Pot) --> ToD (Elixir Field) --> Boot (Steel Peak) --> True (Howling Fist) --> Snap (Forbidden C) --> DK --> TWS --> Demo (Pot falls off).

Question is why not start with Steel Peak --> Demo ? Or is this Double Demo at the start? If that's the case doing a 2nd Snap Punch be waste no as your already at GL3?

My opener is slightly different at present:

ST --> Demo --> (PB) SP (B4B) --> SP (IR) --> TwS (StP) --> DK (HF) --> SP (EF) --> ToD --> FC --> BS --> TrS --> Demo (not fully pot optmized yet but yeah. Its what i currently use

[Hitoseijuro]

on the dummy no party buff i200 weapon i202 im about 1300-1350 so i guess its about right?

Hmm seems a bit low, I was doing 1300-1350 at ilvl 195 with higher up crits, and at 198 with average crits. I want to say you should be closer to 1370s with 202. I havent really been doing any tests when I got 200.

Also im looking at the first post and their opener is very different to mine. Its the following:

(PB) Demo --> Snap --> Snap (B4B) --> DK (IR) --> TwS (Pot) --> ToD (Elixir Field) --> Boot (Steel Peak) --> True (Howling Fist) --> Snap (Forbidden C) --> DK --> TWS --> Demo (Pot falls off).

Question is why not start with Steel Peak --> Demo ? Or is this Double Demo at the start? If that's the case doing a 2nd Snap Punch be waste no as your already at GL3?

My opener is slightly different at present:

ST --> Demo --> (PB) SP (B4B) --> SP (IR) --> TwS (StP) --> DK (HF) --> SP (EF) --> ToD --> FC --> BS --> TrS --> Demo (not fully pot optmized yet but yeah. Its what i currently use

There is no double demo, its just PB at the start, no stance dance, just straight into your rotation from PB. You're probably going to clip 2 dots from demo if you put it that early on.

This is why they delay their buffs til the last Snap punch or Tws so that the buffs will last til the 2nd demolish which is pushed back.

[KaosPrimeZero]

Thanks for the response, i should add this on burst i go +1700 however at around 3min/tp starve mark its around that figure

and ugh my question was wrong hahaha, meant to say why not start with shoulder tackle --> Demo...

[Thrustie]

Your opener is the traditional 3.0 opener and it's still fine. It's minutely behind the optimal opener and over the course of a fight won't make a lick of difference. Just use whatever you're comfortable with. The optimal opener is based on the idea that you run into the boss with the tank and pop PB just before you engage so you don't use ST. If that feels awkward for you, I'd just stick with what you know. The benefit is you don't have to load up coeurl form but I still use the same opener you do for the most part.

[zlol365]

question, generally i go with this rotation just to check will it work? its mostly similar to the traditional 3.0 ver, just that:

TS>Demo>PB>Snap>B4B>Snap>pot>DK>ST>TS>(the close range stun)>Demo>Forbidden>ToD>Howling>BS>EF>True>Snap>Refresh as necessary

I went with stance dance to the 2nd form, so that I can twin snake, for the damage buff. There's a few cons i think, just that I picked it up from someone and I found it preferable to the traditional one @_@"

[Ricdeau]

question, generally i go with this rotation just to check will it work? its mostly similar to the traditional 3.0 ver, just that:

TS>Demo>PB>Snap>B4B>Snap>pot>DK>ST>TS>(the close range stun)>Demo>Forbidden>ToD>Howling>BS>EF>True>Snap>Refresh as necessary

I went with stance dance to the 2nd form, so that I can twin snake, for the damage buff. There's a few cons i think, just that I picked it up from someone and I found it preferable to the traditional one @_@"

Well that opener certainly won't be detrimental to your DPS, but delaying stacks of GL is not the most advisable route. Each stack of GL is worth more than anything else so pushing those out isn't doing you any good. However, across the course of a fight the opener isn't that big of a deal as long as you are getting GL3 quickly. Everyone likes to always go on and on about the opener, but as long as you get GL3 and start rolling all your CDs that's all that's really important and the difference between the common openers will be extremely small on an extended fight. The opener is really all there is to debate on monk for the most part since our combo structures are very straight forward. So try not to get too caught up on the opener. However, I would drop Twin Snakes as your first move.