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    GageRage's Avatar
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    Gageuu Rageuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    What are your dps on a dummy? Gonna parse myself again todaya nd see what i get. Be nice to compare with you all
    At i206 with i210 weapon I'm ranging 1450-1500, crit rng dependant. Sometimes I dip in and out of that range but that's the ballpark figure as of now. That's with no pty/pots/food and no use of fracture.
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    Chaosprime Zero
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    Quote Originally Posted by GageRage View Post
    At i206 with i210 weapon I'm ranging 1450-1500, crit rng dependant. Sometimes I dip in and out of that range but that's the ballpark figure as of now. That's with no pty/pots/food and no use of fracture.
    on the dummy no party buff i200 weapon i202 im about 1300-1350 so i guess its about right?
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    Leona Dawnstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    on the dummy no party buff i200 weapon i202 im about 1300-1350 so i guess its about right?
    Hmm seems a bit low, I was doing 1300-1350 at ilvl 195 with higher up crits, and at 198 with average crits. I want to say you should be closer to 1370s with 202. I havent really been doing any tests when I got 200.


    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Also im looking at the first post and their opener is very different to mine. Its the following:

    (PB) Demo --> Snap --> Snap (B4B) --> DK (IR) --> TwS (Pot) --> ToD (Elixir Field) --> Boot (Steel Peak) --> True (Howling Fist) --> Snap (Forbidden C) --> DK --> TWS --> Demo (Pot falls off).

    Question is why not start with Steel Peak --> Demo ? Or is this Double Demo at the start? If that's the case doing a 2nd Snap Punch be waste no as your already at GL3?

    My opener is slightly different at present:

    ST --> Demo --> (PB) SP (B4B) --> SP (IR) --> TwS (StP) --> DK (HF) --> SP (EF) --> ToD --> FC --> BS --> TrS --> Demo (not fully pot optmized yet but yeah. Its what i currently use
    There is no double demo, its just PB at the start, no stance dance, just straight into your rotation from PB. You're probably going to clip 2 dots from demo if you put it that early on.

    This is why they delay their buffs til the last Snap punch or Tws so that the buffs will last til the 2nd demolish which is pushed back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro View Post
    Hmm seems a bit low, I was doing 1300-1350 at ilvl 195 with higher up crits, and at 198 with average crits. I want to say you should be closer to 1370s with 202. I havent really been doing any tests when I got 200.
    Well no matter how much i try, with no food or pot or party buff, im not exceeding 1350 sustained average
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    Wannbhar Falksyn
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    Question: stuck on A2S. At ilvl 195 doing a little over 1360 dps and feel like i hit a wall. Just dont know when (or even if) I should rockbreaker-PB spam on waves 5 and 8 for more deeps. Im really short on TP and invigorating 3 times in the fight and purification-ing twice. Using rockbreaker whenever there are 3 or more enemies.
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    Sailysium Leingod
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    You don't need to spam RB that much. I typically RB a couple times on waves 2-4 each and one more time during the additional wave of adds in the middle of the 4 dolls. I only RB sparingly since as a monk I'm mainly responsible for burning priority adds fast. Doing RB every time there are still 3 or more adds up is overtaxing on tp. Save that for the ranged dps.
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    Last edited by Sailysium; 09-24-2015 at 07:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailysium View Post
    You don't need to spam RB that much. I typically RB a couple times on waves 2-4 each and one more time during the additional wave of adds in the middle of the 4 dolls. I only RB sparingly since as a monk I'm mainly responsible for burning priority adds fast. Doing RB every time there are still 3 or more adds up is overtaxing on tp. Save that for the ranged dps.
    i think i disagree with this. I RB all of wave 2-4 and use PB to spam RB on wave 4. I also RB on wave 7(4 dolls) unless i screwed my tp regen or i didn't get a goad. Then Wave 8 and 9 i RB very little. On 8 because our stack usually isn't tight enough for it to be very effective and on 9 we use lb.
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    Thank you. Also, for when we get to A3S (and hopefully A4), are most monks using the frontal accuracy caps, or can we stay on the flanks of adds in A3?
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wannman View Post
    Thank you. Also, for when we get to A3S (and hopefully A4), are most monks using the frontal accuracy caps, or can we stay on the flanks of adds in A3?
    A3 it depends on strat. A lot of times you'll be able to go avoid frontals just because you're a melee, who by default pick up the vulnerability up debuff off the MT, but your group might ask you to come in for the cleaves if you didn't get the debuff, depending on gear levels. The boss does swivel a bit, from tanks moving it and magnets causing it to chase the tank, but it shouldn't cause misses too often if ever.

    A4, also strat dependent but less so. If your group stacks in front for the big ball (not really sure why they made front = facing the center other than the boss is technically looking towards the center, immobile, but it's annoying), or if your group has you picking up a doll to feed, you should just gear for frontal. Also it's not uncommon for melee to steal aggro off OT occasionally for Quarantines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannman View Post
    Thank you. Also, for when we get to A3S (and hopefully A4), are most monks using the frontal accuracy caps, or can we stay on the flanks of adds in A3?

    I personally make an effort to cap front accs for all savage floors.
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