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  1. #1091
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    Zeviand's Avatar
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    Zeviand Imperiosus
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    I don't think you will ever use enough fractures to make up more than 2% of your dps without lots of tp, or just dropping DK or Twin multiply times which will lose more dps than it will yeild. FRACTURE SHOULD ONLY BE USED TO ACCOMMODATE DEMO TIMERS.
    I think i understand what you mean here. Every time you use fracture, you delay one of your combo abilities by 1. If you use fracture 6 times in an encounter (with no pauses), you lose out on 6 combo abilities that would have taken fracture's place. In your example, fracture does indeed account for 30dps of your total damage, but comparing a similar 3 minute parse where you don't use fracture at all in your rotation would result in more bootshines(or DKs), more True Strikes(or twS), more demos (or SPs), which increases the overall damage of the other abilities. The dps increase is negligible at best, but an increase nonetheless. If you have the TP, go for it, if not, it's not that big of a dps increase.
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  2. #1092
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    Hak Matic
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Pretty much, thats why it should only be used for demo timers.
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  3. #1093
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I would like to know why the formula says (858*5) instead of 4290. Seems like a stupid question but I'm genuinely curious lol
    Because the person who came up with this particular statement of the formula (me) decided that this way involves the fewest mysteries.

    At levels 1-50, the 858 term matches your base crit/speed/accuracy/parry value (at level 50, it is actually 341). At levels 51-60, the displayed base value is (AFAICT) only relevant for food buffs; the actual values are not directly discernible from playing the game normally.

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    Level   Base stat   Formula base stat
    50      341         341
    51      342         393
    52      344         444
    53      345         496
    54      346         548
    55      347         600
    56      349         651
    57      350         703
    58      351         755
    59      352         806
    60      354         858
    I know for a fact that skill speed has the same scale factor but it's proven more difficult to get a formula this clean out of it. Point by point testing is not my bag, baby!
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  4. #1094
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    Dank Evol
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    This is Dervy's Forumla from the Dragoon thread. You can find it in the thread OP title something along the lines of "Dragoon : How to Dragoon Per Second" or something in this topic board.

    Edit: Linked below

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...A-DPS-Paradigm

    As far as I know. Dervy and maybe one other person do stat weights when/if they feel like it. Probably gonna have to ask him if hes done dark stat weights, though I doubt he has, he might have some insight on what they could possibly be though.

    I will say that its 9/10 probably gonna be Crit > Det > SS only because Crit was buffed and Det was nerfed for 3.0, other than that I have no idea how to go about getting actual values.
    Thanks for your reply, I did do a bit more digging found dervys blog, I can post it if anyone's curious.
    And yeah youre right that works as a general ballpark idea for now which is what I had a hunch of anyway with drk dps, although I do enjoy number crunching so more specific numbers are always great.
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    Last edited by dank1; 10-14-2015 at 03:47 PM.
    Life's a tease.

  5. #1095
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    Zakard Evans
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    what you think about this BiS?

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/ROC9

    full 210,really really hight crit,648 accu with food (not sure about hit cap but 648 should be fine).i dont really see anything better unless i missed something
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  6. #1096
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    Ossom Possom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakard View Post
    what you think about this BiS?

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/ROC9

    full 210,really really hight crit,648 accu with food (not sure about hit cap but 648 should be fine).i dont really see anything better unless i missed something
    Not sure about how good it is, but its not full 210. You're using a 190 Ring over a 210 Ring FYI.
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  7. #1097
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    Zakard Evans
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    hum yea your right....used the wrong link someone posted.the change i made didnt affect the url.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/RV6B
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  8. #1098
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    Kilio Karasu
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Zakard View Post
    hum yea your right....used the wrong link someone posted.the change i made didnt affect the url.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/RV6B
    I think you will not be able to use 2 gordian rings though CMIIW
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  9. #1099
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    Synestra Randgris
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    correct, you can't use 2 Gordian rings, they are unique.
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  10. #1100
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    Zakard Evans
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    Gilgamesh
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    ha yea your right lol didnt pay attention to that....
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