DF Penalty

[Xanikk999]

Did you not try to vote abandon before leaving? Considering how the group was going I doubt they would've opposed the vote

I dislike the idea of a vote for abandon option as it is open to abuse. I think people who don't want to do any dungeon/trial/whatever should just leave on their own. Vote to abandon just makes the people who might need it (to progress the story for example) suffer longer. They already have the option to leave so they should use it without forcing it on others.

I myself when leveling my first class to 60 was forced to suffer a vote to abandon on both Bismark and steps of fate which made me waste more time then I should have completing them.

[Souljacker]

I dislike the idea of a vote for abandon option as it is open to abuse.

People only "abuse" the vote to abandon option in this way because the penalty is too heavy-handed. I think 30 minutes is too long. Either 15 minutes in or after 2-3 wipes. If your group has wiped x times you should absolutely be able to leave that group without penalty and without forcing the rest of the team to vote an abandon.

Folks, sometimes you are going to get people that troll you. It's unfortunate but it's a fact of life and once upon a time gamers just dealt with reality. laughed and moved on. This whole idea of shaping the system to eliminate that one troll while making life harder for the ten or so non-trolls that just want to leave a frustrating dungeon is, in my opinion, a sad symptom of this overly sensitive world we live in today.