DF Penalty

[MilesSaintboroguh]

There's a 30 minute penalty so that people don't just leave on a whim and leave the party high and dry. Even with a 30 minute timeout, I'll happily eat it if it means not dealing with a horrible party.

[Risvertasashi]

There's a 30 minute penalty so that people don't just leave on a whim and leave the party high and dry. Even with a 30 minute timeout, I'll happily eat it if it means not dealing with a horrible party.

On top of that, note that even with the 30 minute penalty, a lot of people do abandon dungeons like AV right at the start anyway.

Anyways... OP, after runs like that, just take the 30 minutes to go do/play something else. Consider it a time to de-stress a bit.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

Did you not try to vote abandon before leaving? Considering how the group was going I doubt they would've opposed the vote

[kazeandi]

Did you not try to vote abandon before leaving? Considering how the group was going I doubt they would've opposed the vote

They didn't vote for the abandon option, that's the problem.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

I usually just sit there then. I'm the healer, they can't really proceed without me.

They can either agree to vote abandon or kick me. A bad group is a bad group.

[Lexia]

I usually just sit there then. I'm the healer, they can't really proceed without me.

They can either agree to vote abandon or kick me. A bad group is a bad group.

This is just as bad cause then you or others like that not being any better then the rest of the group, don't like the group leave and eat the penalty don't contribute to the problem.

[Hypa]

I usually just sit there then. I'm the healer, they can't really proceed without me.

They can either agree to vote abandon or kick me. A bad group is a bad group.

Just remember this can be reported, as it counts as harassment. You need to assess which would be potentially worse: Eating a 30 minute penalty, or risk a 3 day suspension/permaban.

[Vandril]

I usually just sit there then. I'm the healer, they can't really proceed without me.

They can either agree to vote abandon or kick me. A bad group is a bad group.

See, I love it when healers (and tanks) do this. Most players have something other than FFXIV that they would like to do at any given time, so, every time this has happened in a DF I'm in, I've managed to convince the entire rest of the party to AFK with the healer and do that something else for a while. I also tell them to keep a loose eye on the screen in case progression can continue due to the healer getting over themselves, which has happened a few times. Usually, though, the healer comes back within 10 minutes, sees that they haven't been kicked and that we're all AFKing alongside them, and starts to rage all over chat.

At that point, the healer has two choices: sit there until time runs out, or leave and eat LESS of a penalty. A fair few of them try to call the bluff and actually do sit there until time runs out, the poor saps. The rest of them leave, having wasted an additional 10 or so minutes atop of their now 30-minute queue lock.

I get a perverse enjoyment from poking at people's egos. Poetic justice is sweet justice.
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Anyway, snark aside, I see your point about being punished as the one who has done nothing wrong. When you're the only one fulfilling their class role, it can suck having to suck it up and take one for the team you've come to lose all respect for.

But here's the fact of the matter: at least 2 people aside from yourself decided that the dungeon was worth continuing; the vote to abandon would have passed, otherwise. That means that it is not the majority of the group that thinks the dungeon insurmountable in current conditions. You can ask to be kicked, but you might be denied. At that point, you can choose to leave. If you do, you are not punished for doing something wrong in the dungeon, but are punished for leaving a group in progress that was not disbanding, which you did.

The system is working as intended.

Also on a side note, what's with all the back-slashes in your posts? Does it mean something?

I've been noticing this, too. It's similar to an escape character in programming or web design - note how they're all before apostrophes. I wonder if he/she's a programmer and it's some sort of habit.

[AskaRay]

I usually just sit there then. I'm the healer, they can't really proceed without me.

They can either agree to vote abandon or kick me. A bad group is a bad group.

This is rude and and awful. What are you, five years old? I usually report people like this if I know they're doing it to avoid the penalty.
I'm patient, I can wait for you to leave on your own. If you want out so bad then just leave the dungeon and eat your penalty.

[Sapphic]

I usually just sit there then. I'm the healer, they can't really proceed without me.

They can either agree to vote abandon or kick me. A bad group is a bad group.

Which is one thing that a mod said is reportable, going AFK for the intention of getting kicked.

Just leave and do something else for 30 mins.