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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Because a higher potency heal with 130% shield will do a lot more than 5 extra ticks of a regen.
    The example given to me was a 1.8k shield.

    My Regens do 1.2k/tic, forget 5 extra tics, 2 are enough for me to completely laugh at this statement... Bottom line, it's 15 extra seconds of me staying in Clerics Stance and nuking (that's 6 extra casts of Gravity/Malefic/Combust), where as you'd be dropping Clerics to reapply Nocturnal Aspected... Am I really having to argue this?

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Not having any mitigation so you can opt to have regens that effectively do nothing because white mage regens are more than enough is a rather weird priority choice.
    If White Mages Regens alone are over healing to the point where applying mine does nothing, then me applying mitigation doesn't really do anything either, all that would do is waste the White Mages Regen tics, which are apparently potent enough to keep someone capped on HP... In any situation like that, you know what I'd do? Go in with a premade with only one healer, because two clearly aren't needed. If that's not possible, I'll nuke, and I'd sooner nuke in Diurnal Sect than Nocturnal.

    Mitigation has its place, T10 for example, but for the most part... If I'm casting less and spending less MP on heals and over healing, the difference between mitigation and over healing is completely arbitrary. Over healing is only an issue in the example I gave; Casting something expensive like Benefic II, when your target doesn't need a 350 potency heal, let alone a 650 potency one. That is a waste of MP and a waste of a GCD. The only example you can give for me wasting either with Regen is an example in which a second healer is apparently simply not needed in the first place...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-21-2015 at 05:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
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    Good on you for quelling the most stupid argument ever :P The amount of times you'd have to come out of CS while using Nocturnal...perhaps they are using small pulls rofl? If so their argument makes sense, but what kind of crappy healer/tanks want small pulls?

    Ast Hot's > Ast Shield's

    (And they stack with WHM's so you can totally dps and stuff with the MP you are both saving...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    Good on you for quelling the most stupid argument ever :P The amount of times you'd have to come out of CS while using Nocturnal...perhaps they are using small pulls rofl? If so their argument makes sense, but what kind of crappy healer/tanks want small pulls?

    Ast Hot's > Ast Shield's

    (And they stack with WHM's so you can totally dps and stuff with the MP you are both saving...)
    It's really only useful if you have another AST in your party, since the diurnal HoTs don't stack for whatever reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    It's really only useful if you have another AST in your party, since the diurnal HoTs don't stack for whatever reason.
    Indeed, that's just to make sure one of us is in each stance I suppose.

    2x CU doesn't stack either, whereas CU and Sacred Soil does.
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