Scholar possible buffs

[Maow]

Scholar doesn't have a single weakness. It can do everything if it wishes for it. Burst single-target healing? Yes. Most MP-efficient and fluid sustained single-target healing in the game? Check. AOE-healing? Sufficiently good now, as this game has very interval-based AOE-damage mechanics, meaning that Indomitability/normal Succor with a shield/pseudo-Medica-Emergency-Tactics-Succor are all readily available tools. And that is just assuming Selene is being used - if you add up Whispering Dawn and other Eos buffs there, well.. Yeah. Not to of course mention how ridiculously good Deployment Tactics is.

as far as single-target "burst" healing, I'm guessing you mean crit adloquiums. Let me tell you about how unreliable crit can be: with 665 crit, 0/10 adloquiums came out as crit. Of course, on a better day I might crit all 10 of them. But that's exactly the point. It's unreliable. In comparison to the 20k Cure 2's white mage can do with the right party, scholar isn't exactly OP from that perspective. I do agree that Scholar has the EASIEST mana management out of all 3 healers. However, if you're playing white mage and astrologian right you won't be burning all your mana unless you're overhealing for no particular reason. As far as AoE healing goes, it is much better than how it was in 2.0. I explained my issue with Deployment Tactics, it's not that it's not a GOOD skill, it's just that a skill that spreads (eye for an eye) doesn't serve much of a purpose. I'm not saying that Scholar isn't good, it could just do a lot better as a SUPPORT healer with the buffs I mentioned below.

[Tranquil]

as far as single-target "burst" healing, I'm guessing you mean crit adloquiums.

Nah, I meant Lustrate, woven with whatever you want. Adloquium, Physick, Embraces, Emergency Tactics'd Adloquium... These are extremely efficient heal bombs.

[Ghishlain]

as far as single-target "burst" healing, I'm guessing you mean crit adloquiums. Let me tell you about how unreliable crit can be: with 665 crit, 0/10 adloquiums came out as crit. Of course, on a better day I might crit all 10 of them. But that's exactly the point. It's unreliable.In comparison to the 20k Cure 2's white mage can do with the right party, scholar isn't exactly OP from that perspective.

I'm curious, just how does a WHM do 20K Cure II's? Take into account you're trying to compare this to the reliability of Crit Adlo and your implication is that WHMs can reliably do a 20K Cure II, thus negating the need for a Crit Adlo.

Also, is there ever a scenario where you actually NEED a 20K Cure II in the current Meta? @____@

[Maow]

I'm curious, just how does a WHM do 20K Cure II's? Take into account you're trying to compare this to the reliability of Crit Adlo and your implication is that WHMs can reliably do a 20K Cure II, thus negating the need for a Crit Adlo.

Also, is there ever a scenario where you actually NEED a 20K Cure II in the current Meta? @____@

working on getting a video up for that :>

[Ghishlain]

working on getting a video up for that :>

Make sure that's 20K without a Crit. Once you show a Crit, SCH under the exact same circumstances will destroy that Cure II in eHP thanks to the Crit Bonus on Adlo.

[Maow]

After reading through everyone's responses, I've at least come to appreciate my own class more. :> The point that Eye for an eye + deployment tactics (on all 8 people) and Dissipation could be better still stands. I never meant to say that Scholar was weak, more so that the skills I complained about could be better with certain changes instead of in the overly situational state they seem to be in. Again, thanks for (almost) everyone's responses! Specially the constructive criticism

[Ghishlain]

more so that the skills I complained about could be better with certain changes instead of in the overly situational state they seem to be in.

Just consider Scholar's theme - it's a tactician by nature and it's there to lead and heal a small contingent of Marauders. By it's design, it's meant to have tools that are limited and meant to be used tactically.

Aetherflow controls Lustrate, Sacred Soil, Indomitability, Energy Drain, and Bane. You get three per minute and you need to determine the best time to use those resources in each minute. Scholar also has a large array of situational cooldowns - Eye for an Eye, Virus, Deployment Tactics, Emergency Tactics, every single Fairy Cooldown. Some abilities in this massive list are your bread and butter, others are your "Well, if this happens, I can respond with this" button. Play it as such and don't think it's the same as playing a WHM or AST.

By its design - Scholar's resource management is less about the MP like it is for WHM and AST and more about managing your MP and cooldowns for maximum efficiency. Scholar has an "everything is situational toolkit".

[Alahra]

Just consider Scholar's theme - it's a tactician by nature and it's there to lead and heal a small contingent of Marauders. By it's design, it's meant to have tools that are limited and meant to be used tactically.

I haven't finished reading the thread but this made me laugh. This is true in both the lore *and* in game, as 6 or 7 WARs and 1 or 2 SCHs is probably one of the most viable "off-kilter" party compositions out there. Never have lore and game aligned so well, and I never really put it together.

[Muahbec]

as far as single-target "burst" healing, I'm guessing you mean crit adloquiums.

Well...we have the access to lustrate (if you time it you can use up to 6 lustrates)
We have emergency tactics+adloquium...if it crits? *error numbers are too big to calculate*
Please do not forget poor Eos+Selene, we can rouse them and you can manage them to heal the target you want + your heals (physick) which means 400pot + fairy's free of mp cost 300 heals buffed by 40% that's a LOT of HP and even if the 40% buff wears off the amount of HP recovered is still awesome.
If you use Fey illumination+ rouse? EVEN BETTER (Your heals+20% + fairy's heals +60%) .
And for every heal we mention we MUST add the free of MP cost 300 potency heal from the fairy.
So basicaly
Physick(400)+(300)
Adloquium(300)+(300)
Lustrate(600)+(300)
ET Adloquium(600)+(300)
That of course if you manage your fairy...if not then i'm sorry :l

We have so so so many tools that it hurts (i wish my astrologian had at least half of those tools)
(I like your DT+E4E idea though, our main role is damage mitigation and that would fit the job role pretty well)

[Maow]

I'm sure we both know that casting lustrate 6 times in a row would be extremely unefficient. That's the thing, though. As it stands lustrate is pretty weak. My scholar is ilvl 193, and my lustrates do about 4.3k heals. In my opinion, for the skill that should be your "strong clutch heal" it could do a lot more. Do read my suggestions on lustrate and tell me how you feel about that.

The main thing would be how lustrate is very weak in comparison to how it COULD be if said buffs were applied. (as simple as healing buffs applying to lustrate)

But we are the only healers who can instantly heal a target with a 600potency heal 3 times in a row every 60 seconds.....

Do note that since Lustrate is considered an "ability" none of your healing buffs will apply to it, hence why I think it's underpowered. (it has a lower potency than cure 2 / benefic 2 and said healing buffs don't apply to it)