What is a BAD player?

[drmambo1999]

It gets old sometimes carrying the other DPS through experts when I solo queue DF them, makes a nice change of pace when the other DPS is competent. Like one Nevereap run, the BRD did not pass 300 dps. Even with Wanderers up. averaging 270-280 DPS. Like how? A MNK when I was doing levelling roullete on NIN in dismal derphold. Did not use any fist stances at all even when reminded, would not move out of any AE either to the point that the healer refused to waste mana on them anymore. A 60 BLM spamming fire 3 till empty, then waiting on mana ticks,not casting at all, then casting blizz 1 till full mana to start fire 3 spam again.

Advice is ignored, in fact zero chat from them whatsoever, not even a hi in reply at the start.

Worse ones are thospe who fail the most, but due to their ego cannot see they make mistakes and direct the blame onto everyone else instead.

I hear ya there. I truly wish we could have a personal parser on PS4 so I could know the DPS I do. I have never been questioned on it, but not knowing kills me. XD I have seen the the general consensus seems to be "Players that don't listen or refuse to take advice are the worst" and I would have to agree there. lol

[Gamer3427]

Words.

You could always do what I've done in the past and take the very lengthy and time consuming method of using the PS4's built in video recording to do a 3 or 5 minute dps rotation on a striking dummy with a battle damage dedicated chat window up, and manually calculated it by writing all the numbers down and doing the math. I mean, it only gives you striking dummy damage and not a run damage, and it's incredibly time consuming and a pain, but if your curiosity is truly that desperate for data it's an option.....

Yea, I fully agree that we need at least a personal parser to check our own damage. Maybe not include a full one to prevent griefing, ect, but one that just tells us our DPS after a run, or after using a striking dummy.....

[drmambo1999]

You could always do what I've done in the past and take the very lengthy and time consuming method of using the PS4's built in video recording to do a 3 or 5 minute dps rotation on a striking dummy with a battle damage dedicated chat window up, and manually calculated it by writing all the numbers down and doing the math. I mean, it only gives you striking dummy damage and not a run damage, and it's incredibly time consuming and a pain, but if your curiosity is truly that desperate for data it's an option.....

Yea, I fully agree that we need at least a personal parser to check our own damage. Maybe not include a full one to prevent griefing, ect, but one that just tells us our DPS after a run, or after using a striking dummy.....

I have thought about doing that. XD I think I will tonight just for the sake of doing it, but yeah in dungeons I would have to have a friend shadow me and have a really good eye to take note of every hit. lol

[Vrath]

I define bad players in three ways.

1) Arrogant snots who treat other people like trash (usually because the other people are inexperienced, or something.)

2) People who mess up and refuse to learn.

3) Trolls.

[VargasVermillion]

I don't have time

Casual or not is irrelevant to me, if you do not try to put in effort when playing your class/role and still want the same rewards as those that do then you are a bad player. I'm not calling people who don't raid 'bad' I don't even raid anymore. But most people who use 'casual' as an excuse are generally just lazy and expect rewards for basically doing nothing in the game. If you actually do lack time to do any content in game then you don't really have time to be playing it at all.
Raid fights for example only take 20 mins tops, any other time is spent learning fights so if you really wanted to do raid content you could, you would just have to deal with not getting rewards right away or getting content done before others (which doesn't really matter unless you are going for world firsts anyway).

[Fevelle]

If you actually do lack time to do any content in game then you don't really have time to be playing it at all.

What? I don't how you think life works, but some days you get one hour free, other 3, others none. 1 hour on this game is nothing more than 2 roulettes due to queue time (my Expert takes 6-7 minutes to pop, and I'm a healer). If this was a f2p game I would agree, but since it's not and the devs have said that this game is a themepark and supposed to be casual friendly, YES, I can expect rewards for doing content that I have time to and that are interesting. Like the explorations they will implement now, like the esoterics equipment that I can cap weekly with only EX Roulette and like Gold Saucer games/glamours.

And as I said, I dont like to Raid, I don't like PVP too. I come from games like Ragnarok Online and Grand Chase, with heavy PvE content and level grinding based, as well as old-school RPGs, so I don't see anything fun in raiding at all. Especially Alexander. I just did the normal mode to finish the goblin quests, and I'm not even going to unlock Savage because it's a waste of time, time that I could use having fun, not running "learning groups" to learn something useless just to get a drop that won't be the best anymore after 3 months.

"But you shouldn't expect rewards if you don't want to do content"
Yes, I want to do content, just not THAT content. You'll se me a lot in the new islands, hunting, and leveling alts, because that's what I like to do, and paying as much as you do (maybe more because most people don't have 8 retainers), I expect to be rewarded for that. But anyway, you don't have to agree with that, since the devs are already implementing good content for us 'casuals' (isn't that right? with the quote marks and all).

[NoahArks]

Awful player: Only being able to mention flaws or insults/tries to be funny against people that are worse in the game.

Bad player: Someone that just doesn't want to accept changes on his own job class.

[Awful]

Maybe she was and still is feeling awkward because she died and the party had to carry her? Are you sure someone on the party didn't say something like "you suck" or "dying AGAIN?" to be saying it 'stings' now

If you want me to really go there then I will: this person that is in our FC isn't in ours anymore she got her EX clears, and her weapon, and left. Once she left she got into a static and got kicked out of it. Why? Because she can't play her class to her full potential, and her attitude is very bad where she was blaming others for her own mistakes. I didn't wanna post this on here because it is kind of personal but I might as well go the extra mile. The amount of hand holding to get her clear and then in that same clear get her weapon did not prepare her for Alex Savage as after we cleared not only BisEX for her but RavEX and still has a terrible attitude and unwillingness to learn.

[Odett]

Lazy players who can't bother to read their skills and get snappy when you offer helpful advice. Laziness in general, especially those players who think that since you're not doing serious content, they play in a way that holds the group back. Yeah, I'm tired of running this dungeon daily too, but I'd appreciate it if you stopped watching Netflix and performed your job so this run won't take 15+ minutes longer than it needs to. If you really hate being here and just wanna get it over with, wouldn't it make more sense to actually try so you can get it over with faster?

[VargasVermillion]

Stuff

You say you don't like to raid which is fair enough, but if you really wanted to you could, time isn't a real excuse. You say that even if you wanted to raid you wouldn't have time to but you do have time to, if you have time to do relics, leveling, crafting or whatever else, you have time to raid. You likely couldn't do all on the same session but you could make time for these things if you really wanted to, only exception would be competing for world/server firsts or something. Anyway point is that a 'bad player' is someone who won't put effort into the game and expects to get equal rewards to those that do.