What is a BAD player?

[Fevelle]

A bad player for me is someone who doesn't play their class to it's full potential, ridiculing everyone, getting carried in content and not knowing their job at all. Attitudes are important for me as well when finding bad players we had a FC mate get their Rav EX clear the other night. She died a lot, she's attempted the fight, seen videos etc she died 3 times, we ended up clearing 7/8 easily. Was in voice chat with us just said thanks and left, not even another word to us since then. Was our fault bringing her for a clear but man does that sting.

Maybe she was and still is feeling awkward because she died and the party had to carry her? Are you sure someone on the party didn't say something like "you suck" or "dying AGAIN?" to be saying it 'stings' now?

Well, a lot of people complain about others doing low dps, dungeons taking 30 minutes (really? NO, REALLY?), healers not dpsing (including me, and sorry not sorry, I won't dps after getting home at 12:00 p.m. from 6 hours of work, on roulettes I don't even have fun doing), players not dodging etc.

Personally I don't care, if you have a good attitude, I'll stick with you until the end of the content. I never rage-quitted outside of the three times I knew I wasn't ready for that content, may it be because I was tired or because I had taken medications.

So you won't (like, EVER) see me ragequit because someone is "bad". I'm not on the other side of the screen to know what the other players are going through, if they're playing to get their head off of their problems or if they are not feeling well, maybe they learn slower, maybe their reaction time is not on par with yours so if I'm capable of playing the game with more ease than my fellow players, I feel obliged to adjust my playstyle to match theirs, because they pay the same amount I pay and they deserve to play as much as I do.

[Goodberry]

Bad players? Easy. Anyone who calls other players "bad". Implying of course that they are "good" instead. Heaven help us to avoid those self-styled "good" players. I prefer a thousand times to group with "bad" players who are good people, than with "good" players who are bad people. Even if that should mean ten minutes and a couple wipes more to clear the instance. :P

[Goodberry]

lol, I've heard many people claim that AV is/was harder than any of the HM dungeons - including un-nerfed Pharos Sirius.

It's a good test of ability and teamwork, that's for sure.

Strange. AV seemed normal fare to me. Maybe I was lucky and did it always with excellent groups.

[Goodberry]

Also adding hardcore people who thinks everyone needs to play at their best 100% of the time and complain about normal content being added. TBH, they're not bad, just annoying. REALLY ANNOYING.

"Annoying" is a very gentle euphemism.

[tjw]

A bad Healer = Most of them. They are like all bad really.

Care to explain? If the DPS in my party refuse to avoid the most simple of damage, I won't bother to heal them. I refuse to heal stupidity.

[NessaWyvern]

Well, once upon a time, I used to mouseclick most of my abilities. My pvp friends who thought I was pretty good at pvp were like "WTF!!??????? YOU MOUSECLICK!? You should try and learn keybinds man." and so I set up and learned my keybinds, and I can say, they called me the queen of heals in pvp after I mastered it. I can do titan ex without dying ever now, as I don't have to look at my hotbars nearly as much. So, just on personal experience, I would say those who mouseclick their abilities are semi-bad :P
But just semi bad, people can be decent when mouseclicking, I just don't think they are at their full potential, because I certainly wasn't :P
But maybe that's just me.

Also, me before getting pingzapper. I'm from New Zealand, and 360+ ping just doesn't fly in titan ex... You fly instead >.> Off the platform...
Bad ping can = bad player sadly T^T

There was this one smn the other day in The aery... He had swiftcast but didn't have it on his hotbars, not did he have resurrection on them. He told me with bad grammar that he didn't think he needed them at all. I mean, yeah HE doesn't necessarily need resurrection, but the party can need it, especially when the healer died in the final boss. He also didn't use any dots >.<

[Fevelle]

Also, me before getting pingzapper. I'm from New Zealand, and 360+ ping just doesn't fly in titan ex... You fly instead >.> Off the platform...
Bad ping can = bad player sadly T^T

Can you give an explanation on PingZapper? I'm kinda interested since I live in Brazil...

[NessaWyvern]

Well, it's like WTFast I think. They have servers near the game servers that you connect to, and it's used to evade isp throttling (which New Zealand internet is notorious for) and apparently optimises the packets sent? I am not very tech savvy, all I know that my friend in the UK recommended it to me, and it is freaking awesome. No more eating weights for me in titan ex!

Eugh I sound like an advertisement.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Tanks in dungeons that insist on storming ahead and continually pulling too many mobs at once even after the group dies from that the first time. Usually these are also Tanks that don't know how to properly manage defensive cooldowns and don't pop them appropriately so the giant wave of mobs go through them like wet paper.

This irked me because the tank in my dungeons run not only couldn't keep hate, but kept insisting on stopping in very narrow corridors, which make it extremely difficult to notice what mobs were throwing off AoEs and even what direction. Needlessly to say, he got two of us killed, but tried to blame it on DPS (me) not dodging.

With that in mind. While not "bad" players per se, people who run the early dungeons/raid expecting everything to be perfect get annoying. They're designed for new players to learn, not you zerg rushing them.

[Kikoten]

Tanks who treat low level dungeons like a raid, getting all militant on the group and kicking people when they don't do something a certain way. Bad players.

People who start drama because they don't win the item they want. Bad players.

People whoare condescending, especially when giving advice. Bad players.