The Great Gubal Library has a book on Lady Amandine which is chonrologicly wrong?

[PotatoSalad]

Did a little translation to make sure. Japanese and German only say, "Succubi are beautiful and I want one!" English and French went out of their way to characterize the writer of the diary as having met Lady Amandine and having become absolutely enamored by her beauty. As of the writing of the diary, Amadine is still human. He's simply comparing the beauty of the high succubus to her without knowing that, ironically, she herself would one day become possessed by one.

Either way, the guy has a corpse and he's trying to summon a succubus into it so he can ...get down... with it, and he totally botches the attempt.

Just for fun, here's my trademark combined and paraphrased version of all four languages' contributions and characterizations.

...wait, a minute. ...Ultros?... Is that why he's so lewd!?

Olde thread, I know... But Amandine is - was a Duskwight Elezen.

[Anonymoose]

Olde thread, I know... But Amandine is - was a Duskwight Elezen.

"Human" is not a very user-friendly term in Eorzea, now that you mention it. I meant it more as a way to imply that she still had her person-hood - her "humanity" - not that she was hyuran. She just wasn't yet a voidsent's meatsuit. The game very rarely uses the word human, but it has on occasion, in a similar context. The French name definitely implies Elezen, though did we get anything to assume Clan? A lot of Duskwights resisted joining Gridania.

(Bonus: Amandine is a French name given to various substances containing almonds, though it could also just come from Amanda, which means loveable or worthy of love and seems to fit better with her story.).

[FJerome]

The French name definitely implies Elezen, though did we get anything to assume Clan? A lot of Duskwights resisted joining Gridania.

She's described as a "wealthy Duskwright" in the dungeon description for Haukke Manor in the Duty Finder. Maybe House Dartancours is actually originally from Ishgard and not Gridania?

[Anonymoose]

She's described as a "wealthy Duskwright" in the dungeon description for Haukke Manor in the Duty Finder. Maybe House Dartancours is actually originally from Ishgard and not Gridania?

Aha! Thank you very much. Turns out that's the only mention of it, too. I feel like it's the things in the most obvious places that easiest slip my mind, sometimes, lol. Amandine could easily have been basic Gridanian Duskwight, they're just much fewer in number than the Wildwoods since the post-Gelmorran schism. Duskwights in general seem to be pale because they never returned to the above-ground way of life and spurned the city-states. My first guess is that Amandine is just one of those that returned to the fold, so to speak.

[FJerome]

Aha! Thank you very much. Turns out that's the only mention of it, too. I feel like it's the things in the most obvious places that easiest slip my mind, sometimes, lol. Amandine could easily have been basic Gridanian Duskwight, they're just much fewer in number than the Wildwoods since the post-Gelmorran schism. Duskwights in general seem to be pale because they never returned to the above-ground way of life and spurned the city-states. My first guess is that Amandine is just one of those that returned to the fold, so to speak.

The thing is we've seen Isghardian Duskwright nobles . . . well, okay, we've seen Jandelaine and his brother Guillesfresne, we know that they're from a branch family of House Dzemael, and while we haven't seen any of the main branch of House Dzemael directly we do know that they were building themselves a swanky fortress within natural caves before all those voidsent showed up and ruined everything.

ETA: That said in the flashback to the Knights Twelve the Dzemael ancestor is clearly Wildwood, so if there is Duskwright blood in the main line it married in later.

[Anonymoose]

The thing is we've seen Isghardian Duskwright nobles . . . <...> That said in the flashback to the Knights Twelve the Dzemael ancestor is clearly Wildwood, so if there is Duskwright blood in the main line it married in later.

For what it's worth, here's what I've been using for reference points:

We Wildwood are descended from the first Elezen to settle in the deep wood. We ourselves have lived amongst the trees for nigh on nine hundred years. (~672|6A) <...> The Duskwight are cousins to us Wildwood, and the same blood of the first Elezen courses through both our veins.

The forests, of which the Black Shroud is the tangled heart, have been home to the Wildwood Elezen for hundreds of years. Many of the Wildwood, however, have been drawn to the city-states they helped found, such as Ishgard and Gridania. Their fondness for law and order has contributed to a reputation for being haughty and argumentative.

For the past several centuries, the Duskwight Elezen have lived in the woodland caverns of Eorzea. These cave-dwelling Elezen are the descendants of a branch that split from the main Wildwood clan during the founding of Gridania. The Duskwight despise the "shackles" of urban life, and it is not uncommon for this reclusive people to avoid the city-states altogether.

Actually, it is a farely common first name in French, indeed coming from Latin Amandus,-a . It also seems to be a variety of potatoes, although even as a Frenchman, I did not know that!

I did not know that, either. Thanks for the addendum

[Yasminou]

(Bonus: Amandine is a French name given to various substances containing almonds, though it could also just come from Amanda, which means loveable or worthy of love and seems to fit better with her story.).

Actually, it is a farely common first name in French, indeed coming from Latin Amandus,-a . It also seems to be a variety of potatoes, although even as a Frenchman, I did not know that!