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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    You keep throwing around the word subscription as if you're the only one paying for them.
    Show me exactly where I said I was the only one paying a subscription, when I've been saying others pay a subscription fumbling your words?

    I think a GM should shut this thread down, parser's are already against the rules, all this is doing is causing fights it should be locked.

    One thing is for sure, all of you are ganging up on me because its a fact and you hate it, cause if it wasn't a fact then why doesn't he allow your third party tool? why do you get temp banned for using it if reported?

    So lets attack the guy who doesn't like it, I am not attacking you, only telling you that's how you use it just to abuse it. every player including you has a right to play this game.

    Yes if a person is running into monsters not fighting right or trolling yeah I agree kick, though if a person is dodging fine and you all are dying and you guys say well you arent helping dps is too low thats why I die then you are in the wrong.

    Maybe if you learn to dodge instead of watching the parser and complaining about dps you'd be able to win your fights its like that saying keep your eye on the ball "to give your attention to what you are doing all the time " not what someone else is doing you might crash and burn that's your fault nobody elses. take responsibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
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    Please answer our question. Why are tanks and healers held accountable for failure to do their jobs but DPS aren't if a DPS race is the cause of a wipe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    Please answer our question. Why are tanks and healers held accountable for failure to do their jobs but DPS aren't if a DPS race is the cause of a wipe?
    You are all responsible for what you do, there is no favorites in a group, either it works or it don't a parser does not tell you the skill level.

    Its like in FFXI a person could buy a account with the best gear max stats, it does not make him the best player.

    A person with low DPS could be better than you even if you played right even if you dodged right and he did the same doesn't mean the next boss fight you won't fumble up you put your faith in a tool instead of your own experience, you're not a gamer then if you let the game play you. If you have to use a program to get the job done that's pretty sad.

    If I fail that just makes me a better player because I can accept it, then try again until its correct, I don't need a program to show me that like you all do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    You are all responsible for what you do, there is no favorites in a group, either it works or it don't a parser does not tell you the skill level.

    Its like in FFXI a person could buy a account with the best gear max stats, it does not make him the best player.

    A person with low DPS could be better than you even if you played right even if you dodged right and he did the same doesn't mean the next boss fight you won't fumble up you put your faith in a tool instead of your own experience, you're not a gamer then if you let the game play you. If you have to use a program to get the job done that's pretty sad.
    A parser can tell you HOW MUCH DPS EACH PERSON IS DOING. A parser does not play the game for you. It's a TOOL THAT MERELY COLLECTS THE DATA PRESENTED IN THE BATTLE LOG. A parser can show you who's not pulling their weight DPS wise and if DPS checks aren't being met, then you know WHY. If you are constantly wiping in a fight at the same point due to a DPS check, then SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. I'm not sure how clearer this can be conveyed to you.

    No one is picking on you, so you can drop the victim complex. We're trying to show you just how grossly misinformed you are. It's clear to see that you do not know what you are talking about. By the way, you didn't answer the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    If I fail that just makes me a better player because I can accept it, then try again until its correct, I don't need a program to show me that like you all do.
    How do you know how much DPS you're doing, then? How do you think that the people who came up with the best rotations arrived at their conclusions?

    Failing a DPS race consistently has nothing to do with dodging or any of what you're talking about. Failing a DPS race consistently and thinking you'll get it next time by not changing anything is best compared to repeatedly smashing your head against a 6-inch-thick cement wall and thinking you're going to break through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Show me exactly where I said I was the only one paying a subscription, when I've been saying others pay a subscription fumbling your words?
    you're the one who keeps saying someone has the right to play how they want while only looking at it from one side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    So lets attack the guy who doesn't like it, I am not attacking you, only telling you that's how you use it just to abuse it. every player including you has a right to play this game.
    how are you not attacking people? You're throwing around accusations that people only use parsers JUST to abuse it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    though if a person is dodging fine and you all are dying and you guys say well you arent helping dps is too low thats why I die then you are in the wrong.
    how can you tell who needs to improve if everyone does the mechanics perfectly but keep failing the DPS check?

    from my previous post. answer that.
    an example would be in Bismarck EX, No one died, mechanics were done perfectly, we couldn't get past the snakes DPS check.
    we didn't know how to improve because everything was done perfectly except the DPS check. What do you do now? disband?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Maybe if you learn to dodge instead of watching the parser and complaining about dps you'd be able to win your fights its like that saying keep your eye on the ball "to give your attention to what you are doing all the time " not what someone else is doing you might crash and burn that's your fault nobody elses. take responsibility
    ^here's another example of you attacking people with baseless claims.
    You don't even know how people use parsers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    If I fail that just makes me a better player because I can accept it, then try again until its correct, I don't need a program to show me that like you all do.
    How? How are you gonna know what you are lacking in?
    When you've done the mechanics perfectly but still fail to meet the DPS check?
    Please enlighten us.
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    Last edited by hagare; 09-13-2015 at 02:07 PM.