Parsers and Problems

[graudon]

From the start of the game people are arguing about parsers, addons etc. and they got their right on that. I was thinking about how can you add a parser but also cant effect the players by the same time. So this is what I came up with:

First idea is simple making it avaible only for party finder. Like how lootmaster system works. Basicly we will have our parse but the people on party gonna vote for it if they want.


2. idea i had is making a room for fc house's that you can test ur self. Much more like a simulation room that u can parse your dps while under aoe attacks. Much more like a dojo type room but more complex (I would be happy if they add ) Since you cant see the same numbers that you got on dummy, in a actual raid this type of thing could work it out pretty good to test and get more accurate numbers.

Those are just poped up in my mind so if someone already made a post like this I have no idea about sry for that. Im here to discuss it, sry for my bad english.

[Colorful]

They said they're working on a training area, similar to the simulation idea you suggested. It likely won't make it in 3.1, but maybe in 3.2 or 3.3.

[ShaneDawn]

Train Train Rotation Revolution, release date TBA. Be excited!

[Greyfrost]

Although I'm for the idea, people won't even vote yes for it in DF, especially if they're DPS, healer and tanks will vote for yes imo.

Because simply they don't want another responsibility, unless they're confident enough they can pull the "good" numbers.

The JP community has been asking for an in-game built-in parser exclusively only for training dummy, I wish it gets implemented soon.
Because most people don't even know how to set the parsers right, i.e. you're parsing, your friend is also parsing, both may yield different numbers.

Me included ;_;

[LaylaTsarra]

Parsers should be allowed for personal use but not for group evaluation in my view. A training area sounds awesome and one where one can compare their performance against a leader board (without user names/id's).

[Colorful]

Parsers should be allowed for personal use but not for group evaluation in my view. A training area sounds awesome and one where one can compare their performance against a leader board (without user names/id's).

I see nothing wrong with them adding the ability to parse in a Party Finder party. If they finally get around to finishing the Addon API (they said they're going to work on it more since HW UI things are done), it's going to happen anyway, even in DF.

[LaylaTsarra]

I see nothing wrong with them adding the ability to parse in a Party Finder party. If they finally get around to finishing the Addon API (they said they're going to work on it more since HW UI things are done), it's going to happen anyway, even in DF.

I get that impression that many like them. Personally I'm opposed to it for party use and hope it never becomes an official part of the game but then that is what makes the world go around. We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.

[repoe]

Personally I'm opposed to it for party use and hope it never becomes an official part of the game but then that is what makes the world go around. .

i understand why some folks are against it being available for party use- Trash talk, etc; allowing all users to get their parse data in actual content even if its similar to PvP results, which allows us filter by DMG dealt at the end of the match. people would be able to tell how good they are doing, or in the case of a BIZ ex clear i was helping FC mate with... how bad they are doing. i200 weapon and every attempt kept pulling under 300. my friends were pretty chill about his low dps and stayed quite since he was a friend of a friend.. but we sure did tell our mutual friend to inform him of how bad he is doing and to read up on his job.
either way.. anyone with a smidgen of common sense knows.. dummy dmg test vs actual content are two different things completely. Faust excluded.

[LaylaTsarra]

which allows us filter by DMG dealt at the end of the match.

At the end of the content wouldn't bother me although that could still be embarrassing to friends who aren't performing at a high damage level. It's the ability to do it during the match that really bothers me.

It's a game and whether we like it or not everyone isn't going to perform to an optimum level to satisfy some. That should be no reason for them not to be able to queue for DF and play and have to be at the mercy of others as to whether or not they are vote kicked or trash talked. There is too much room for abuse in my view and I don't believe a mechanism for excluding others should be an official part of the game.

Let people see what their damage is on a personal level so they can compare it to an official average as well as high numbers for their class so they can take steps to improve. I'm all for that but not as a mechanism for abuse which I do believe will happen. It will only turn people off who will eventually quit the game.

[Twilite]

I see nothing wrong with them adding the ability to parse in a Party Finder party. If they finally get around to finishing the Addon API (they said they're going to work on it more since HW UI things are done), it's going to happen anyway, even in DF.

I guess it's time for me to hang it up then.