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    Dalvy's Avatar
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    Ysera Dei-ijla
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Suggestion View Post
    Coil sucks. Please don't do anything about it
    Ex Fights sucks. Please don't do anything about it
    Void Ark sucks, Please don't do anything about it

    CT SUCKS, Dear gods don't do anything about it SE!

    So on and so forth, your problem is that YOU find old and future outdated content sucky and would rather harp on people who want to revitalize old content to become less 'sucky'.... this is a problem SE can not fix for you, utterly.
    What an amazing post.

    Firstly, SE cannot force players to return to old content without suffering a backlash. It is the nature of MMOs with an upgrade system to leave behind the outdated content. Carrot-on-stick incentives are bandaids to a bigger problem that goes outside SE's scope and into western player mentality. Eventually people will get tired of trying to farm those cheap incentives...and then you're back to bitching about not being able to get carried through old content.

    Secondly, we must be playing a different game because I remember endless complaints about CT being shitty to run due to wiping on easy mechanics, length of time, troll groups, etc. Putting players through the CT ringer in order to get their relic is highly unfair. Plus, what makes you think these issues won't resurface?

    Third, if you can't get 24 people NOW why do you think SE can wave a wand and POOF there's people ready and waiting to queue, whenever you want. Queue times were very long for CT1 when CT3 was out. Take that into consideration.

    Go ahead and make them undersized, but don't expect to return to the same volume of players that ran older content when it was still relevant. Once again, CT sucks.
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    Last edited by Dalvy; 09-11-2015 at 05:49 PM.

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    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Indaki Sativa
    World
    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalvy View Post
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    Well, all I can say is I hadn't run Ifrit Extreme in *literally* over a year because I could care less about the rewards there and I never really had any of my friends ask for help with that particular primal. Also, maybe it had something to do with fighting 3 different versions of him just made the encounter stale for me quicker than the other two. I went in a few days ago to help a friend get her fire pony and we did an unsync 3man for the win. It was more fun than I can remember having in Ifrit Extreme ever before.

    So we ran it more. Because it was fun. Not for some reward.

    21 tank 3 healer Syrcus Tower during 2.5 was also the most fun I've had in a 24man raid. All I'm trying to say is, you may not expect participation/interest levels to increase if they add unsync to the CT trio, but I could give two shits about any of those 3 instances and if they unsynced it and allowed undersized parties I would instantly be intrigued to go back into all of them. You wouldn't feel empowered to kill something with 8 people that was designed and tuned for 24??

    Well, I would...so before you begin citing annotated references about "western player mentality", which I'm sure you Mastered in, please don't forget that....ya know....sometimes.......just the actual fun you're having can be considered the reward for some of us.

    Also, when CT3 came out, the weekly quest also came out making you run all 3 for your upgrade items. Uh...everyone was doing that for a solid month. Queues were not "very long". At least not on my data center, which, oh Hey!!!, you happen to be a part of >.>
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