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    Player
    LunaHoshino's Avatar
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    Luna Hoshino
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    The other day my FC organized a server-wide alliance for the CT gauntlet because one of our friends (who only started playing a couple of months ago) had just unlocked it and wanted to run it. We've got one more fresh 50 in my FC who wants to do it too so we'll probably get another alliance together for her at some point.

    I don't know why people think new players don't want to do it-- it's new content for them, so of course they're going to want to give it a try.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I wouldn't mind a roulette for 24 man raids. I'd probably do it to get a tomestone for my Machinist weapon.
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    So what we're asking for is for SE to attempt to force everyone into old content so we can run back to the forums and bitch about them rehashing ideas when they do? Just making sure I understand what we're discussing.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    King Stefan
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Why is this a thread? Once void ark is released nobody will miss that OLD faceroll 24 man. Then two weeks later nobody will miss ANY of the 24 mans.
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    Tobias Shadowmane
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    As much as I would like to see a raid roulette or some added exp from them, as-is. I would like to see some items for synth, or at least add the carbon coats and twine to mastercraft recipes to make them more than just items used for NPC upgrades. Like Kevlar and Carbon fiber recipes or something. Some WoD boss or random area items for crafting otherworldly things (furniture, Gear, potions) could help maintain some interest or reason to keep doing them and that quest in mor dhona..
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    Zeon Darksol
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 100
    It would be really easy to fix this.

    When you do the update for golden saucer.

    Put a roulette for CT and old fights to earn golden saucer points. cool down every two days.
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    The only way to make this raids relevant all over again is to add special new drops of mats to craft New gear. A bit like Allagan leather silk etc.

    A drop per boss. Watch everyone run this stuff over and over again.

    I personally love all these raids. Wish they do something about it.
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    Windklinge Wirbelwind
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    they used thier dev time to raise max level and add useless leveling fluff which is done by most players once or twice then becomes useles expect to "twinkers" hence why we lack content now and see these threads. if max level stayed at 50 it wouldnt be that big of a problem at all. thats the nature of the beast aka cap raises. they create pressure on the devs because they start from ZERO endgame wise which is NEVER a good thing for a mmo. it never will be. devs just dont get it. many players dont get it either because they only know wow.


    also lol at the comment wanting to get USED to raiding. these "raids" are the EASIEST 24 person raids i have EVER seen in over 10 years of mmo gaming. and that says something i guess. they wont prepare anyone for alexander. for that we have normalmode which is piss easy.

    making em duable undersized? sure go ahead.
    making em part of a new roulette with tome bonus? sure why not.

    making em FORCED on old players via new relic quest or new upgrade stuff? NO FOR SANITYS SAKE! thats not content thats a LOAD OF CRAP. same mistake lotro made. SAME MISTAKE. dont be stupid SE. redoing old content is NOT FUN. add NEW content and focus next expansion ON ENDGAME not on pointless leveling which players finish in ONE WEEK thats basicly throwing devtime away.

    raise the difficulty on content or add more mind tier content. stop with the super easy metality. that doesnt feel rewarding. take a good look at dark souls series. PLAYERS LIKE CHALLENGES and that game PROVES that. having nearly everything handed to you is not fun. and make it effort/skill based. NOT rng based. thats not fun either and has nothing to do with skill or effort.
    (4)

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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    How is it "forcing" anyone into anything? I don't feel "forced" to run Main Scenario roulette, so I don't. It's simply giving people another (100% optional) way to get EXP, gil, and possibly tomestones. For people who have just hit 50 and are trying to level/gear up, the more options, the better.
    It's trying to bribe someone to do something they normally wouldn't.

    You can't pull enough together in PF or enough through DF, so you're asking SE to bribe people into running outdated content.
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    Luna Hoshino
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    It's trying to bribe someone to do something they normally wouldn't.

    You can't pull enough together in PF or enough through DF, so you're asking SE to bribe people into running outdated content.
    I actually just ran LoTA a couple of hours ago and it popped in about 20 minutes (and the run was smooth as butter, with no wipes or even stupid deaths), so clearly there are people still interested in running it for whatever reason.

    You're acting as if people are going to be dragged kicking and screaming into the roulette. People who don't want to run it aren't going to run it; the people who do will now have an extra reason to do so-- in other words, exactly like the existing roulettes. There is literally no downside to this.
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    Last edited by LunaHoshino; 09-11-2015 at 06:10 PM.

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