Tanks, please use strength gear.. :(

[Seshayn]

Here I was thinking I was doing ok. So what is "average" gear?

At this point? 190 would be the lowest gear I could personally even consider average, and I would say above average starts around the 195 level. This is assuming you aren't being hit with the ilvl reduction of pentamelded 150 accessories.

I would say Average is 192 for your primary class, with anywhere between 185 and 188 being average for your secondary. If you just play casually I would say go ahead and lower those Ilvls by 4 or 5 across the board, I personally consider those to be a fair representation of most people I have seen in server or df. However these account for being level 60 within the first 2 weeks of Alexander Normal.

So really, while you might be what I consider below average gear level for someone who was 60 when alex came out, if you hit 60 in the last 2-4 weeks you're doing quite well. All prespective and opinions. no facts. A majority of players might find what I think quite wrong. Circumstances being different, I might feel likewise. I in no way meant to insult your gear level, I was just using "below average" in a guesstimate based on observations sense.

Rofl why are you so angry my facts are true with i190+ and str acc you have as much hp as when We first did those dungeon.
Did We struggled that much for the first dungeon? Clearly no so yeah a healer that cant keep you alive on expert dungeon needs to get good that´s it.

Stop being so agressive there is no elitism behind it. We are just talking about expert dungeon.

I am personnally using a mix of pentameld and i210 slaying and never had any issue.

I find the underlined text quite contradictory to each other. While I have no problems in expert dungeons, bismark, ravana, or A1-4, the FACT remains that I know dozens of healers who do not appreciate STR tanks when they go into the DF. The reason they do not appreciate these STR tanks has been unanimously consistent among those I interact with. With a primary reason being they can find very little time to incorporate anything other than constant cast healing into their rotation, and the fact that it is just expected of them to tolerate it.

Maybe instead of this #gitgud bullshit, we can start #gitpolite trending, and tanks can once again start working WITH their healers, considering the fact that our lives are LITERALLY in their hands.