[dev1134] Guildleve Revisions

[Konachibi]

Lol if your talking about the new content from last patch it was all complete in a week, then it was back to leves. Same thing will happen with 1.19 all content complete in a week or 2 then back to leves. So i want more leves, i enjoy them.

Agree! I was hoping they'd keep the current leve system but reduce it's reset to 24 hours instead of 36, so I'd have something to do everyday instead of every day-and-a-half. Now I'll have something to do every 12 hours, that will barely last me 30 minutes, then nothing to do for another 11 hours and 30 minutes, though hopefully they're increasing the SP/XP yield of crafting so that if I choose to use those 11 hours to boost crafting, I'll feel like I've gotten somewhere after all that time instead of going "hmm, 2 ranks, whoopdeedoo".

[Arcell]

Agree! I was hoping they'd keep the current leve system but reduce it's reset to 24 hours instead of 36, so I'd have something to do everyday instead of every day-and-a-half. Now I'll have something to do every 12 hours, that will barely last me 30 minutes, then nothing to do for another 11 hours and 30 minutes, though hopefully they're increasing the SP/XP yield of crafting so that if I choose to use those 11 hours to boost crafting, I'll feel like I've gotten somewhere after all that time instead of going "hmm, 2 ranks, whoopdeedoo".

Well if you're focusing on just regionals or just locals you're actually getting more leves than ever. Essentially you're getting 8 a day, every day. The plus being that there's no day where there happens to not be a reset at all, as there is with the current system. If you're on all the time and do them every reset then yes it'll seem like less but overall if you choose to focus it's more.

The plus of this system is freedom. Yes with the old system you got 16 leves/36 hours however you could only choose 8 for each type. With the new system you can put all of your leves into whatever you want, which is especially beneficial to those who focus on a single type. What if I don't feel like crafting that day? Those extra leves (12 leves/36 hour period) aren't wasted, I can choose to use them for more battle class leves.

[darkstarpoet1]

Well if you're focusing on just regionals or just locals you're actually getting more leves than ever. Essentially you're getting 8 a day, every day. The plus being that there's no day where there happens to not be a reset at all, as there is with the current system. If you're on all the time and do them every reset then yes it'll seem like less but overall if you choose to focus it's more.

The plus of this system is freedom. Yes with the old system you got 16 leves/36 hours however you could only choose 8 for each type. With the new system you can put all of your leves into whatever you want, which is especially beneficial to those who focus on a single type. What if I don't feel like crafting that day? Those extra leves (12 leves/36 hour period) aren't wasted, I can choose to use them for more battle class leves.

it will not seem like less, but it actually will be less.

it may seem like more if you do one class, but it is not.

16 > 12 and there is no disputing on that fact.

[Arcell]

it will not seem like less, but it actually will be less.

it may seem like more if you do one class, but it is not.

16 > 12 and there is no disputing on that fact.

Right 16 is greater than 12. Numerically there are fewer leves. However the point you completely glossed over is that you can use all 12 of those for regional OR local if you so choose. You can also choose to split them up as you like. Currently every 36 hours I can do 8 regional leves. With the new system, if I choose to focus, I can do 12 regional leves every 36 hours. So if I'm choosing to focus 12 > 8.

[Reika]

And the people that do 8 regional AND 8 local per reset get the shaft, which is perfectly acceptable to the player that just does 1 thing.

5 every 12 hours or 4 every 9 hours would be better for everyone.

Or just keep the 16 every 36 hrs and keep the accumulation part up to 99 leves...

[Arcell]

And the people that do 8 regional AND 8 local per reset get the shaft, which is perfectly acceptable to the player that just does 1 thing.

You have to make sacrifices somewhere if you want to diversify. I'm not saying it's a perfect system but it hardly warrants the amount of complaining it's seeing. Often even if I split my efforts I would never use all 8 local leves because I would never be able to find that many in the range for the craft I'm leveling.

[darkstarpoet1]

You have to make sacrifices somewhere if you want to diversify. I'm not saying it's a perfect system but it hardly warrants the amount of complaining it's seeing. Often even if I split my efforts I would never use all 8 local leves because I would never be able to find that many in the range for the craft I'm leveling.

you are not adding diversity by saying by concentrating on one class you get more. diversify is adding more options. if you had 16 leves and you had to split them between at least disciples doh and either a dow/doh then you had more diversity beforehand. 2 is more diverse than one.

[Reika]

You have to make sacrifices somewhere if you want to diversify. I'm not saying it's a perfect system but it hardly warrants the amount of complaining it's seeing. Often even if I split my efforts I would never use all 8 local leves because I would never be able to find that many in the range for the craft I'm leveling.

As long as one does not have to sacrifice, it is perfectly acceptable.

[Konachibi]

And the people that do 8 regional AND 8 local per reset get the shaft, which is perfectly acceptable to the player that just does 1 thing.

That's what I was getting at. At the moment I run to a city, pick up 3 battle leves and 3/4 crafting leves, do all of those, then run to the next city and repeat, for all 3 cities, untill I can't do anymore. This way both my battle AND crafting classes rank up. With the new system, it'd seem more beneficial to operate on a "Today I'll use all my leve's on battle, tomorrow I'll use it all on crafting" which although is a bit more focused, still means I'll be getting less SP per-rota than I am at the moment, since I'll be doing the same amount of battle leves (8), but 4 less crafting leves (From 12 to 8).

Though I guess they are revamping crafting and we're apparently going to be gaining more SP per item than we do now so grinding may make up for it, but then that means having to go out and get the materials which is such a bore