Gratulation to Elysium but disappointed of Lucrezia

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lucrecia had more group dps than elysium (they killed it like 10-20 sec earlier) and spent less days in a4s than elysium

I would declare them to the winnerteam :s


btw, elysium did the same with the 3rd set of balls, so do you want to declare them to "cheaters" too?

[basketofseals]

"Fixing" fights because they weren't done exactly as intended is how you end up with Absolute Virtue.

[Khalithar]

"Fixing" fights because they weren't done exactly as intended is how you end up with Absolute Virtue.

Not necessarily. In wrath of the lich king (WoW xpac), one of the hardest bosses in the game was beaten by one raid group by glitching out the adds so they became a non-factor during the boss fight, essentially cheating and bypassing mechanics to make the fight easier and the offending guild was (rightly) punished and had their achievement stripped. Things like that should be fixed so that players have to do the fight as the devs intended.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/29/e...ron-encounter/

[Gilraen]

Not necessarily. In wrath of the lich king (WoW xpac), one of the hardest bosses in the game was beaten by one raid group by glitching out the adds so they became a non-factor during the boss fight, essentially cheating and bypassing mechanics to make the fight easier and the offending guild was (rightly) punished and had their achievement stripped. Things like that should be fixed so that players have to do the fight as the devs intended.

I'm all for such fixes, but this doesn't really seem like the same level of chicanery. The player popping the orbs still dies, just not immediately, costing the healer the mp for raising and even forcing a level 3 healer Limit. That's alot of resources being used to pop two orbs with one player. Again, this isn't hanging the boss on a wall or forcing enrage to completely negate the effects of an attack that only occurs during normal battle. This is just popping orbs, something they'd have to do anyway, more efficiently.

[otarolgam]

I wouldn't say this was exploiting necessarily, but rather using the game engine to it's fullest. I mean, if you can use your character model to dissole a second ball by using momentum from getting killed to the first... All the more power.

Technically, this has been done many many times before in this game, either purposely or accidentally, just that nobody cares if similar mechanics are found in dungeons and stuff...

Really, I don't find this to be such a big deal...

[Khyan]

btw, elysium did the same with the 3rd set of balls, so do you want to declare them to "cheaters" too?

This.

I think the strategy to "avoid" mechanic with deaths is not really easy. You loose dps, LB3 and a lot of mana from healers.

Players are free to do their own strategy. Stop complaining of what other players do, it's really annoying.

[SinisterJointss]

If both teams had to cheese a mechanic to win, it's kinda disappointing imo. Takes all the glory out of it. oh well....

[Jynx]

Sweet they can fix it by fixing the horrible input lag!

[Gilraen]

If both teams had to cheese a mechanic to win, it's kinda disappointing imo. Takes all the glory out of it. oh well....

Far be it for anyone who wasn't there to say that, I think. After all, such people weren't there. Threads like these, though, do give excellent examples of those who weren't there trying to rain on the parades of those that were.

[Cherry_Phox]

I haven't seen any of the videos and such of the kills. If what I'm reading here is true though, they must have lost some pride with that strat. They were even given some accolades in the Letter from the Producer.

Unless SE wants to say 'Oops. This is actually wrong. We take our congratulations back. Try again guys.' Then this is not an exploit in the eyes of the SE staff.