Gratulation to Elysium but disappointed of Lucrezia

[Airget]

If it wasn't an intended mechanic/way to handle it they would of placed the orbs further apart. You only assume the developers didn't want you to grab multiple orbs or attempt to because your figured if the first one deals more dmg then your health then you should die. But in the same way that healing works where it's not the animation but rather the animation finishing that cures you, dmg is dealt in a similar way.

You know how groups have won even when everyone died in the split second difference with their LB going off and them dying, it's pretty much the same scenario here, the player is rushing through both orbs and knowing that since the first one is going to kill them if they reach the second one in time they can save on MP for their group.

SE I believe looked through the video before they declared their opinion on it and honestly for a fight that takes 14 mins it wouldn't be hard to see if they did it "legit" or not. Again if it wasn't an intended way of handling it they could of just placed the orbs on far unreachable corners from one another but since they didn't you can't assume that they didn't consider that people would try that as a strat.

[Metterschlingel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkbOdAYNrDg

I watched MrHappies Walkthrough video now (who also is doing sac strat). If anyone says "wait for server tick, hit sprint, and jump to avoid server position updating" is a working as intended strategy you are one beer short of a sixpack. I mean, ok you want the fight to get done and you are too bad to handle it, ok; but claiming this is intended to excuse your inability to handle Royal Pentacle is just ridiculous. Kudos to the only group (one JP group) who did it entirely correct. Hope SE, will foresee this in future raids, I don't expect a fix for this will happen.

[Kuwagami]

Kudos to the only group (one JP group) who did it entirely correct.

Elysium resorted to the sac on the last set (losing 4 people on it btw, not attempting to raise them) only because they were a little short on dps in the end. I'm sure it would have been good with a few more tries, of with just one more week for gear in the worst case scenario. This is not comparable with lucrezia and the likes who just straight out ignored 2 mechanics of the fight to get more effective dps on boss.

[SpookyGhost]

It's not "you are too bad to handle it" - as long as an easier route is allowed (Lucrezia, as far as I know, hasn't been banned for it and was even commended by Yoshi-P) then people are going to take the easier route. Whatever view you have on it is irrelevant, no one has to conform to your own personal guidelines on what constitutes a victory and what doesn't. It is, indeed, very worrying that you can sac 1 person to eat 2 Pentacles due to server latency issues - however, this isn't the player's problem, it is SE's.

In the future, I hope they design more fun bosses (like Ravana EX or A3S) and not horrible cluster****s like A4S. Also hope that this motivates them to fix the plethora of server issues.

[Charisma]

Lol at people not seeing abusing server lag as an exploit..

this is ridiculous.. an already dead body picking up another orb is not thinking outside the box.. but like SE is going to care anyways...

[Duelle]

It's called common sense to recognize what is intended and what is an exploit. Remember, AK staying on the tree for first boss? I don't criticize the die strategy, I criticize that it is possible to hit 2 orbs where it is supposed to only hit one, but delay of the game enables you to get two, which seems like a bug/exploit.

This. By OPNeddsNerfs' logic, Reckoning Bomb was a valid strategy , as was grenading the platforms during heroic Lich King to bypass mechanics and phases, as was glitching Absolute Virtue to a wall to nuke from distance, and glitching sky gods into the terrain for same, as was having 6 BLMs spamming thunder on 1.0 Garuda to entirely skip phase 2 (even despite Yoshida asking players to not do it while they worked on a fix).

[Kuwagami]

I think the strategy to "avoid" mechanic with deaths is not really easy. You loose dps, LB3 and a lot of mana from healers.

no you don't. Because you ignore totally Nisi (less healing needed) and the big doll (80k damages saved solely for the manipulator each time, and it happens 6-7 times). That's also why they can use healing LB3 : they get a healer with full MPs back, and don't need the 100k damage the melee LB3 would have brought anyway as they gain way more by ignoring mechanics and dealing with being MP starved. Which is a lot easier to do than dealing with Nisi

[LineageRazor]

"Fixing" fights because they weren't done exactly as intended is how you end up with Absolute Virtue.

I hope you're not defending the method by which AV was first killed. If you honestly believe that using a trick in the terrain to nullify pretty much ALL of a boss's mechanics is a legit strategy that the devs intended, I really don't know what to say.

Say what you like about how impossible AV was, but the "wall trick" was clearly an exploit - and this was made clear not only by the quick patch to the fight, but by the fact that SE actually went the extra mile and nullified all the item drops when they caught on to what the exploiters were doing - if I'm not misremembering, AV dropped NOTHING when it was killed in that cheap manner, and it's pretty unlikely that that was just a coincidence.

[Ibi]

if I'm not misremembering, AV dropped NOTHING when it was killed in that cheap manner, and it's pretty unlikely that that was just a coincidence.

No, that was just SE being SE. AV had no guaranteed drops, so it was always possible to hit the bad luck lottery and have no drops.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

I think if you haven't beaten it the legit way, you can't get mad at people for cheesing 1 out of the many mechanics in that fight.