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  1. #241
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    its not just computer specs its also the fact of transferring that data from server to client not everyone lives right next to a server and the bigger the textures the longer it takes everything to work
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    Quote Originally Posted by reillyblair View Post
    its not just computer specs its also the fact of transferring that data from server to client not everyone lives right next to a server and the bigger the textures the longer it takes everything to work
    The assets are stored on your computer, they're download once (when you download the game, of course) then they're loaded from your HDD or SSD.
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  3. #243
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    The problem is not technical. It is like all games which are multiplatform on pc and consoles at the same time. They always downgrade the pc version to make it look similar to the console one to not piss the console players and to avoid extra costs, optimizations etc. And please do not bring the argument that you have low end gaming pc and you can't run it. You can always adjust your graphic settings on PC. Many of us here have powerful enough graphic cards to handle way heavier games than FFXIV so this is not the problem. The cutscenes look really horrible with those blurry low res textures. The game will shine with higher res textures.
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by reillyblair View Post
    so basically you want to go back to 1.0 where you need top of the line pc and still lag lol
    Top of the line, not quite exactly true, but it was that way due to how poorly optimized the game was. Nowadays most decently built PCs could run 1.0, so I don't think it's unfair to ask Square to give people a bit more wiggle room with better visuals as an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    They already have all the assets in very high res saved somewhere, no developer just deletes assets like that because they're done with them
    You don't know SE
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/...ts-assets-lost

    (They lost assets for FF7 too)
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  6. #246
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    I will mention that now with DirectX 12 and Windows 10, I did the benchmark for 1.0 and got a score slightly over 6,000. I made a thread on it awhile ago saying that 1.0 needed Windows 10/DirectX 12 to really shine.
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  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    I will mention that now with DirectX 12 and Windows 10, I did the benchmark for 1.0 and got a score slightly over 6,000. I made a thread on it awhile ago saying that 1.0 needed Windows 10/DirectX 12 to really shine.
    Windows 10 or DirectX 12 have nothing to do with it, a game has to be built for DirectX 12 to utilise its feature sets, not just exist on the operating system it was made for. The reason you got a higher score is because computers today are much more powerful than they were 5 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post


    You don't know SE
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/...ts-assets-lost

    (They lost assets for FF7 too)
    To be fair, those are games from forever ago, not ones that are still currently be worked on. Regardless, you'd think they wouldn't lose the assets of one of their more treasured games...
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    To be fair, those are games from forever ago, not ones that are still currently be worked on. Regardless, you'd think they wouldn't lose the assets of one of their more treasured games...
    And you could say the same for Konami with their laughable HD port of Silent Hill 2, but here we are...
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  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I run a fairly mid-high end rig, and FFXIV barely makes use of it's available VRAM, using only 1/4th of the available amount (second line). This is in the Churning Mists, a large open Heavensward area with everything cranked up to max.
    I get more like 1.5-2GB of VRAM usage w/ the DX11 client. And my GPU only has 2GB total. I think I had it on the High (Laptop) or the High (Desktop) preset.

    These are the stats for the leviathan trial.
    https://youtu.be/ul3awW_RlTY



    Asking for a high resolution texture pack because it's only using 1/4th of your available VRAM is a selfish thing to ask for. It will not provide a notice increase in visual quality while greatly effecting performance. If you want the game to use more of your 4GB, buy a 4k monitor. That should push VRAM well past 2GB...
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    Last edited by Laraul; 09-10-2015 at 08:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    I will mention that now with DirectX 12 and Windows 10, I did the benchmark for 1.0 and got a score slightly over 6,000. I made a thread on it awhile ago saying that 1.0 needed Windows 10/DirectX 12 to really shine.
    Not this silly stuff again.

    1. Windows 10 has nothing to do with it
    2. DirectX 12 has nothing to do with it
    3. There are changes to multithreaded display list rendering with DirectX 12... which requires DirectX12.

    Any perceived improvement is tiny and a result of less cruft running in the background with the updated OS. As a second point of reference, display drivers change specifically for every version of Windows, so the end result is that nVidia, AMD and such spent a lot of time on making WHQL drivers for the operating system release. The drivers are otherwise identical to Win8.1 and Win7. How AMD and nVidia choose to optimize their drivers in each OS is different. A WindowsXP driver has to be optimized against a Pentium III, and Windows 7 against a Pentium Core2, and Win 8/10 against the Core i3/i5/i7, and so forth. When they change the optimization paths, you get some small bumps in driver performance, but you're not going to get anything phenomenal.

    It IS true that there were SOME higher resolution textures in V1.0. That doesn't mean that higher resolution textures = better graphics. Higher polygon models means better graphics, and that is a limit of the video card performance. Higher resolution textures is irrelevant when the average player doesn't play the game at maximum zoom. It's more important for the game to perform adequately when there's 100 Players on the screen, than it is to have 10 characters to have extremely high details in a cutscene that you can see their eyelashes.
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