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    Again, I don't think DPS checks are a problem. The game needs hard metrics to meter the competency of players within their jobs. Alexander has a good balance between mechanics and DPS checks, Paladin just isn't a part of the balance equation currently. Variance between the classes on a per encounter basis is normal, but Paladin goes outside of this to be actively detrimental on A3S and A4S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyne_Lyons View Post
    Again, I don't think DPS checks are a problem. The game needs hard metrics to meter the competency of players within their jobs. Alexander has a good balance between mechanics and DPS checks, Paladin just isn't a part of the balance equation currently. Variance between the classes on a per encounter basis is normal, but Paladin goes outside of this to be actively detrimental on A3S and A4S.
    emmm nope, coil have a awesome balance in mechanics and dps, all turns of coil make tanks to survive and keep agro very hard whit hight hits from the boses, dps need push to max and dont eat nothing to stay alive and healers need heal like a hell.

    alexander only force all clases to dealt a stupid amount of dps whit zero mechanic dificult, titan hard in they time whas more hard compare to AS 1, and coil 1 whas a good boss whit caduceus the double snake need feed to reduce stacks, and the shining ground, old times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    alexander only force all clases to dealt a stupid amount of dps whit zero mechanic dificult, titan hard in they time whas more hard compare to AS 1, and coil 1 whas a good boss whit caduceus the double snake need feed to reduce stacks, and the shining ground, old times.
    Lol, come back and say that when you have actually cleared a floor in Savage.

    Also healing Alexander is a lot harder than healing Coil, I'm not sure how someone without a single healer to 50 would be able to know the difference anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    Lol, come back and say that when you have actually cleared a floor in Savage.

    Also healing Alexander is a lot harder than healing Coil, I'm not sure how someone without a single healer to 50 would be able to know the difference anyway.
    i have a second character WHM , is only ilvl 90 but i heal the bahamut coil t1 to t5 before echo so i have a idea how the heal job is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    i have a second character WHM , is only ilvl 90 but i heal the bahamut coil t1 to t5 before echo so i have a idea how the heal job is.
    Again, come back when you have actually cleared a floor in Savage. A3S would love to have a chat with you about that "zero mechanic dificult".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    Again, come back when you have actually cleared a floor in Savage. A3S would love to have a chat with you about that "zero mechanic dificult".
    Ehhh to be fair the mechanics themselves on A3S are not terribly complex, probably the most complicated thing is sluice+wave. Its just that you have to keep up near-perfect rotation while doing them, because SE jammed a very tight hard-enrage mechanic into every fight in alex. A crisis of creativity perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    Ehhh to be fair the mechanics themselves on A3S are not terribly complex, probably the most complicated thing is sluice+wave. Its just that you have to keep up near-perfect rotation while doing them, because SE jammed a very tight hard-enrage mechanic into every fight in alex. A crisis of creativity perhaps?
    More like they were pressured by raiders for harder content so they use absurd dps checks only thing they could really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    Again, come back when you have actually cleared a floor in Savage. A3S would love to have a chat with you about that "zero mechanic dificult".
    don't tell whats turns i beat and i don't beat, i see the entire AS3 savage and i play in that turn, don't say nothing like that if you don't know how i am and how im done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    don't tell whats turns i beat and i don't beat, i see the entire AS3 savage and i play in that turn, don't say nothing like that if you don't know how i am and how im done.
    I don't really believe that, you haven't got a single piece of Savage gear, if you were on A3S you would have had enough pages to buy some by now, let alone the actual drops from the floors them selves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    i have a second character WHM , is only ilvl 90 but i heal the bahamut coil t1 to t5 before echo so i have a idea how the heal job is.
    So you've healed some the first raid just under two years ago and are now qualified to talk about the difficulty of healing over the next three raids without healing them? You don't have a level 60 healer, any experience healing through SCoB & FCoB, or any progress in Alexander...you're not qualified to be able to make those comparisons, the same as you don't have any experience in Alexander to be able to comment on the complexity of the mechanics.

    Seriously what is it with players on these forums, you guys can't make the dps check past Faust, so that must mean all of Savage is a dps check with no mechanics right?
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