Savage Alexander and the Paladin Exodus

[Ashkendor]

We only raid like 1 to 2 hours a week and we beat alex 2 savage last week. Still able to beat stuff with me playing paladin they seem fine to me. 50 or so more dps is not really going to make or break you. Its the dps job to put out the dps tanks not so much.

The whole point being that if the DPS are putting out their maximum and it's still not enough, you either 1) wait weeks until the DPS get more geared, or 2) try to squeeze out some damage from your tanks and healers.

[Synestra]

We only raid like 1 to 2 hours a week and we beat alex 2 savage last week. Still able to beat stuff with me playing paladin they seem fine to me. 50 or so more dps is not really going to make or break you. Its the dps job to put out the dps tanks not so much.

Problem is that first 2 floors are more like small taste of what is coming, difficulty is on par with final coil and the real savage starts from A3S.

[Sove92]

We only raid like 1 to 2 hours a week and we beat alex 2 savage last week. Still able to beat stuff with me playing paladin they seem fine to me. 50 or so more dps is not really going to make or break you. Its the dps job to put out the dps tanks not so much.

A1S and A2S are a cakewalk in the dps department. 3 and 4 need top dps from everyone, including tanks and healers. That 50 dps difference matters a lot.

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

This will require multiple posts and I apologize for that.
What I see from trying to raise this issue on my server is people immediately assume Paladins are jealous of Dark Knights now that Magic Damage raids are a thing.

This couldn't be farther from the truth in regards to my feelings. They have a niche and I'm okay with that, I'm okay with being the worst tank dps, I'm okay with being the weakest in mitigation with regards to current end-game. I'm glad they've added another tank and broke up the monotony of tanking. However, currently it seems as though that's all they've done what with lack luster "fluff" skills given to Paladin (they have uses, but as the Savage Floors are scaled our worth to the team is brought under severe scrutiny for a multitude of reasons.) It truthfully seems as though they wanted us to be the "support" tank, made one or two skills that confirmed this and then outright gave up after that. I'll do my best describing the issues I see with the "meta."

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

CONT.
It's been said on other forums (particularly BlueGartr,) Paladin nor Dark Knight compliment one another with skills to help the other (or the team in general) perform better given the extreme need for dps. Seems Dark Knight can hold its own with regards to dps, mp management, and tp management. Warrior, as usual has been at the forefront as a hybrid tank/dps which requires a ton of skill and confidence. Paladin has been, admittedly since the Warrior improvements, the inferior tank job (the introduction of Dark Knight has only increased the observable delta between them.) From what I can gather even with a party composition made entirely just to assist one of the two tanks issues, Alexander Savage Floor 3 seems to be our limit at this current time.

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

CONT.
Perhaps I'm wrong and I'm just not skilled enough as a PLD and my group isn't good enough either, but I feel as though the longer something isn't done to at least meet content half way in regards to the skills a PLD can bring to an encounter to overcome its faults, it'll become more obvious that tanks don't mesh with one another or the party. If Square-Enix intends for PLD to be the "support" tank, they should make us the support tank. I welcome the challenge using skills as a tank that could be compared to AST in terms of buffing the DPS within a 3 Yalm radius (I guess around 9 to 10 feet since I'm 'murican and "uneducated.") It would be a great way to help overcome my damage deficiencies and keep in line with the lore of being the lowest dps tank job while also confirming that I truly am a "support" tank. I also welcome the challenge of taking on a magic damage raid as a physical defense king since I already have 3 skills that help me tremendously in that regard.

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

CONT.
Like I've said, I'm okay with being as low dps and "inferior" as I am right now.I'm not okay with Square-Enix giving me support style skills that I can only use sometimes, that have arguably extremely limited use, while allowing me to stay so far behind on skillset as to provoke the community into telling me to "just wait" for better gear or some such nonsense. I'm also not only looking at current content, but future content where a DRK and PLD might be forced to cooperate with massive physical and magical damage to mitigate. PLD in that regard will still be severely lacking in skillset, dps, and overall ability. It kills me that I have to admit that I am the weakest link and there's nothing I can do about it besides level a WAR, take around a month to be even half as good as the ones that are here now and abandon a job I absolutely love because of what it does (and doesn't do.)

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

FINAL POST
I'm not asking to be Over-Powered, or even buffed for that matter. I just want to be considered, which is what Warriors needed and asked for in previous content. They saw the possibility for the job to do amazing things and it surely does. I see that for Paladin as well, just in a different sense of form and function. Thanks for your time, your consideration, and just the ability to allow us to voice our concerns with current and future content.

[Ladon]

And this is where I'll come in to inform you that you can edit a post and not meet a character limit when editing a post.

But of course people are going to lay into you about making 5 posts rather than reading your reasonable perspective.

Welcome to the OF.

[Shining_Tiger_Excalibur]

I'm sorry for being a moron in that regard, then. I suppose if it's a large issue a moderator will contact me and I'll make the appropriate changes. I don't even know if making the changes would still allow people to see posts I've deleted, so I guess I'll keep it the way it is (at the risk of looking like a coward deleting them, figuratively cutting my argument off at its knees.)